A LISTENER: It’s not that well connected to the society. It’s brief and clear.
BRANCO FRANCESCHI: You think that is actually the problem?
A LISTENER: There are many problems actually, not one. We have to approach it.
BRANCO FRANCESCHI: You have 60 seconds to name two more.
A LISTENER: I can’t find enough written material. This is one problem. I can’t find
enough thinkers about the biennial. Even I cannot think properly about the biennial
because it’s not clear. The most important problem is that the transparency is not
visible.
BRANCO FRANCESCHI: Transparency of what?
A LISTENER: Of the biennial policy, of the artists and of the curators and all the
art institutions in Turkey. I can’t see a visible transparent stage democratically
playing actors in the art world in Turkey.
BRANCO FRANCESCHI: You mean how it is organized?
A LISTENER: Not only about organization. You know at the previous biennial in
the 9th Istanbul Biennial I was guiding again and that time the quality of the
participation of the society was questioned and the result wasn’t that optimistic.
Artists and curators and all the art professionals are belonging to the same society.
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B‹R D‹NLEY‹C‹: Toplumla çok etkin bir flekilde bacurrency1lant›l› decurrency1il. Gayet k›sa ve aç›k.
BRANCO FRANCESCHI: Gerçekten sorunun bu olducurrency1unu mu düflünüyorsunuz?
B‹R D‹NLEY‹C‹: Asl›nda bir çok sorun var, sadece bir tane decurrency1il. Yaklafl›mda
bulunmam›z gerekir.
BRANCO FRANCESCHI: ‹ki sorunu daha belirtmek için 60 saniyeniz var.
B‹R D‹NLEY‹C‹: Yeterli yaz›l› malzeme bulam›yorum. Bu bir sorun. Bienal
hakk›nda yeterli düflünür bulam›yorum. Ben bile bienal hakk›nda düzgün flekilde
düflünemiyorum, çünkü aç›k decurrency1il. En önemli sorun fleffafl›currency1›n görünür olmamas›.
BRANCO FRANCESCHI: Neyin fleffafl›currency1›?
B‹R D‹NLEY‹C‹: Bienal politikas›n›n, santç›lar›n ve küratörlerin ve Türkiye’deki
tüm sanat kurumlar›n›n. Görünür bir fleffaf tabaka, Türkiye’deki sanat dünyas›nda
demokratik bir flekilde oynayan aktörler göremiyorum.
BRANCO FRANCESCHI: Organize olufl biçimi aç›s›ndan m› kastediyorsunuz?
B‹R D‹NLEY‹C‹: Sadece organizasyon aç›s›ndan decurrency1il. Bir önceki bienal olan 9.
‹stanbul Bienali’nde de rehberlik yap›yordum ve o günlerde toplumun kat›l›m›n›n
nitelicurrency1i sorgulan›yordu ve ç›kan sonuç pek de iyimser decurrency1ildi. Sanatç›lar, küratörler
ve tüm sanat profesyonelleri, ayn› toplumun üyeleriler. O zaman, kendi yorumlar›n›
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