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years. And to support the point that some in government want an outright ban; the Department of Health and Social Care in Great Britain has recommended that taxes on gambling increase every year above the rate of inflation. If you impose an above inflation tax then you’re effectively prohibit gambling, because it quickly becomes uneconomic and the only gambling that does occur takes place illegally.


Tobacco, food and alcohol industries have all faced bans, restrictions and prohibitions. Are there any lessons to be learned from these industries as to how they've tackled the prohibitionists? Or should any association with tobacco and alcohol be avoided?


I don't think you can avoid such associations, because these are the comparisons being made. We all think that we'd like our industry to compare with good stuff, rather than bad stuff. I’ve been asked why gambling is lumped in with tobacco, alcohol, and arms production? I made the point in return that perhaps alcohol and arms production didn't want to be associated with gambling either. We all see each other as being more virtuous than others do.


So while I don't think we can avoid the comparisons, the question is what can we learn from them? Getting ahead of the arguments, recognising that gambling, like alcohol and food consumption carries risks, is key. Gambling is an age-restricted activity that raises legitimate concerns. We must, therefore, take meaningful action, as opposed to ‘public relations’ action, to address these issues. Te industry needs to be much better at this, and not wait until the political pressure becomes so intense it’s forced upon us.


Dan Waugh Partner Regulus Partners


“I was reading an article in which gambling harm was described as: “the momentary regret after losing a bet.” So I think there are things where we can be very clear are unambiguous harms; self harm, serious financial harm, things like that. But I think when we get into regret or, as the UK Gambling Commission has indicated: “that reduced cinema going is related to gambling problems,” then things are getting a bit blurred.” Dan Waugh


Another point, which is related, is that the industry needs to be an expert on this subject. We need to know more than the public health activists. We need to be all over the evidence so that we can present as an honest expert witness in policy debates, which actually cares and is not simply an industry that gets forced into a series of retreats.


Is there any country that is striking the right balance in addressing and responding to gambling prohibitionist viewpoints?


gambling problems,” then things are getting a bit blurred. So we have to be very specific about what we mean by gambling prohibitions, especially about the problems we are trying to tackle, and it's when we lose specificity that the ideological standpoints take hold.


UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak last year talked about creating a smoke-free generation. Do you think that's even plausible that gambling could be banned in this kind of way?


Anything's possible when governments can do more or less what they like subject to the democratic processes. So while I'm not suggesting it's likely that we're seeing a complete prohibition, it is possible. And it's certainly the ambition of some people within government. Tere are also lots of stages that come before outright prohibition that I genuinely can see happening in the next few


We have a wonderful panel at the IAGA Summit, with guests from different backgrounds and jurisdictions, so I'm hoping that our starting point in the UK leads us on to talking about what's going on more generally in the market.


Has anyone got this right? I think a few years ago in Britain, we had it somewhat right. Te basis for the gambling market in Great Britain is explicitly about prevention of harm to vulnerable people while allowing the majority of adults to engage in gambling to the extent it's not harmful. I think that has somewhat been lost and the idea that consumers might enjoy this activity has been lost. Te idea that the rights of recreational consumers need to be protected has been forgotten in the debate.


Earlier we talked about avoiding ideological philosophical views. My own philosophical view is very consistent with the direction of


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