INTERVIEW
Did you grow up with a lid over your life? Speaking with international bestseller and world renowned authority on
emotional healing and life transformation Brandon Bays recently, Elizabeth Jewell Stephens found out more about Brandon’s personal life and lessons learned from dealing with and overcoming deep personal trauma.
Brandon Bays interviewed by Elizabeth Jewell Stephens
Elizabeth: Do you agree that the key to vision and purpose is always found in experiences in this life and past lives? Maybe the tumour was for you to be able to find your vision and purpose better.
Brandon Bays: I do feel that, Elizabeth. The last thing I ever expected to have happen was to end up with a basketball-sized tumour. It seemed like I was doing everything right and then life threw an anvil at my head and I got a huge wake-up call. It definitely was an invitation to go much deeper into myself. I feel we are all here to learn our soul’s lessons, and life conspires so that we can learn what we need to learn. If we don’t get the lessons the first time around, then life might have to repeat our wake-up calls until we get the message. Clearly I wasn’t getting the message
and so this wake-up call really sent me reeling. At the age of 39, I honestly felt I was at a peak in my life. I felt deeply fulfilled. Everyone always says you get sick because you were stressed, but I
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didn’t feel stressed. I felt blessed. So it hit me like a Mack truck, that I would get ill when it seemed I was doing everything right. In my case I had a series of huge life
lessons after healing from that tumour. A year later my house burned down. I didn’t have any house insurance. Then the next year my husband of 20 years left me for a younger woman. I lost my job. Everything I believed to be certain in my life came crumbling down around me, and it feels to me like The Journey was born out of the ashes of what had been my life. Like a phoenix rising I was invited by life to a whole new fresh way forward.
ES: What was it that you needed to learn most in this life, the learning of which gave your life meaning?
BB: There are so many lesson Elizabeth. One of the first lessons, came from my first journey process with the tumour. The ‘cell memory’ I uncovered was of violent abuse from my childhood. Of course, as a therapist
I already knew about that issue, and had worked on that repeatedly over the years. I thought it was completely handled. Yet it was crystal clear when I got inside that tumour, this old issue of the violent abuse was rearing its head again. Clearly I hadn’t fully healed from that trauma. I feel that learning to embrace, accept and forgive all that had happened was part of my lesson. In the next journey process I went to a previous lifetime (or perhaps it’s a genetic memory). In this memory I was a scullery maid and I was on a straw cart. I was being raped by six men. I didn’t know how to cope in the face of that level of violence and brutality. I started calling out to God in that memory. “Please, what am I meant to learn from this?” Eventually it became clear I needed to learn compassion in the face of violence. That powerful teaching is actually what has allowed me to work in places that are currently violent, or even war zones. We have a humanitarian organisation
called Journey Outreach where we bring journey work to people who
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