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1 Write to: The Editor, Clitheroe Advertiser and Times, 3 King Street, Clitheroe BB72EW Editorial e-maU:
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eastlancsnews.co.uk Someone special has
gone from our lives IT was with sadness that I read of the death on October 31st of Mr Keith White- side. . Keith was an old boy of Clitheroe Royal
Grammar School, and for many years a committed and efficient secretary of the Old Clitheronians' Association. He cherished with deep conviction the
traditions of the school over past centuries and endorsed the continuing achieve ments now so manifest in the 21st Centu-
He was erudite - a comprehensive read
er of books, in French and Russian too. His passion was drama, and he illustrated his telent in the plays performed at Whal- ley Abbey. He had seen all the Shakespeare plays in
live performances. Conversant in Russian, he naturally
used the language on arrival on one of his visits to Russia. He was immediately swept away for
further interrogation - under suspicion, when he had only wanted to offer a cour tesy. A traditionalist, Keith would never accept any aspects of the metric system -
temperature remained in Fahrenheit, measurements feet and inches, and so on. He followed sport; visits to Old Trafford
for his cricket, to Ewood to support Rovers, and he was one of the faithful at Shawbridge supporting our home team of Clitheroe. I tried to persuade Keith to indulge in
the modem convenience of television - to view sport, music or drama in the comfort of the home. He insisted he experience performances
in reality - never to be dependent on a camera projecting an image "up someone’s nostrils". Sometimes I understood what he
meant. He remained convinced that tele vision was no more than an intrusive "idiot lantern". Very few of us knew the personal Keith
- he was selective as to whom he let into his company - or, whose company he joined. Quirks we all have, and Keith had his
share too. But he was in his own sincere and independent way, a very special per son. And those of us who have had what I would like to term the privilege of know ing Keith know that someone special has gone from om lives.
ROBIN PARKER, Chatburn
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on its own merits EXCUSE this belated reply to the letter from "Brockhall Resident" (October 7th), but we had to wait for the next parish council meeting to frame our reply. The letter raises a number of
issues. The first is the writer’s choice of
anonymity and the editor’s decision to allow use of a "nom de plume". The Advertiser’s guidelines state
that "noms de plume can only be accepted if the editor agrees that there is a valid reason for the writ er’s identity to be withheld". The writer uses expressions like
"vendetta" and advises "Coun. Sowter and his cronies to keep their mouths shut". Is this the kind of anonymous
contribution the Advertiser wishes to encourage? What valid reason is there for allowing a nom de plume in this case? Perhaps the Editor could tell us? Or perhaps the writer can write again and explain his or her timidity. All our parish council meetings
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are open to the public. The Brock- hall Residents’ Association was advised to come along to a meeting of the council if they wished to put forward their views. They were specifically told to consult the parish notice boards or contact the clerk for times and details of meet ings. They did come, but to a meet ing after the response was formu lated and in its final draft stage. On the question of timing, the
parish council, like all other consul- tees, only has 21 days to respond to planning applications. In some cases we ask for an
extension, but have to proceed on the basis we will not get one. Our eventual reply ran to four pages. It required three drafts, each of which had to he discussed with all mem bers of our planning group (six councillors) before eventual agree ment. I t was a long deliberative process. On the substance of the application, ours is far from a blan ket objection. We give our support to the provision of community facilities and more open space. The idea that councillors should
always represent the views of their constituents (whether or not they voted for them?) in planning mat ters is simplistic and naive. If a householder applies to build
an extension and two neighbours object, who should a councillor sup port - the applicant or his numeri cally superior objectors? Doesn’t he need to look at the merits of the application or is it-merely a num bers game? The only sound policy is to view
each planning application on its merits using sound planning princi ples and a consistent approach. Once a representative decides to take his orders from whoever shouts the loudest or from where he thinks the most votes are, he sacri fices all self-respect as well as public respect and the electorate will soon find him out. Finally may we point out some
thing else th a t may not have occurred to "Brockhall Resident"? In this application, the Resi- i dents’ Association is, along with.
Mr Hitman’s company, an official party to the application, i.e. it is in joint names. It is very detailed and argues strongly in favour of the
proposed scheme. What "Brockhall Resident" mw
seems to expect is that their views should be equally strongly expressed by the parish council (as the major local consultee) to the exclusion of any opposing views, i.e. they want a monopoly of both sides of the public discussion. Pardon us if we think that this is
not a very fair, balanced or demo cratic approach to an important and controversial planning applica
tion.
MICHAEL COLLINS, BRIAN HAWORTH, MARTIN HINCKS, CLAHIE MORAN, CARL ROSS, GRAHAM SOWTER, DAVID THRELFALL, Billington and Langho Parish Councillors
• I reserve the right to make the decision regarding the use of a nom de plume and while I agree that anonymous letters undermine the credibility of the letters page, on this occasion I felt the reasons for the request were valid.
-EDITOR Full marks to this
new sculpture! I WRITE in support of the new sculpture at The Grand Cinema which has been the subject of some fairly hysterical criticism in your letters column in recent weeks. I am always surprised at how we
seem to attack that which we do not understand. The arts, race and religion usually top the list. Year after year, the tabloid press
ridicules the Turner Prize exhibits. Even the Impressionists, in their day, were described as "talentless daubers." How many homes today sport a t least one Monet print on their walls? The shock of the new is
embraced by some and anathema to others. I firmly believe that it is only by encouraging and adopting innovation, new ideas and direc tions that we move forward in this world. So, Mr Swoboda, don’t be put off
by these carpers; keep pushing the boundaries.
IAN JOYCE, Meadow Bank, Chatburn
Some ideas for
different venues THE sculpture outside The Grand is not the first for Clitheroe. A bright and uplifting one can be
found outside the Platform Gallery. The bowed soldier as a true statue can be found at the war memorial in the Castle Grounds towards the Castle and a little known object being a piece of a pinnacle from the original Houses of Parliament can be found in the rose garden adja cent to the museum on the Moor Lane side. The sculpture referred to was
indeed somewhat dull in relief and outlook (it was the artist’s accom modation
jn.Clitheroe thatiprovedi
his guidance for the project) and it must be said that he should have got out more. The sculpture did not reflect “Clitheroe the Riture” more “Eeeee it’s Grim up North”. I t might be presently positioned
outside a listed building, but the building was listed for what was inside. I t has always been a boring building which the sculpture in its original form made more so. I believe that the sculpture could
very easily slot itself on to a patch of green grass, say opposite Balti Spice, near Tesco, on the inner by pass, preferably incorporating a water feature as much for the local ducks’ pleasure as our own. Anyone who’s seen the Ramsbottom Urn will recognise the potential (although the sculpture’s vase may need some reworking). Failing that, Brungerly Park
beckons. As for sculptures on the A59(T)
roundabouts. I do not care as this is something more for the highway authority and the parish council(s) concerned; the roundabouts being outside the town. The sculpture trail in the town
centre needs public involvement and soon (seeing as it is indeed a current topical talking point) and could prove most successful. This I look forward to.
BRUCE DOWLES, Whalley Road, Clilheroe
Public invited to
have their say WITHOUT wishing to comment on the merits of the new sculpture outside the Grand in York Street, I would like to point out that Clitheroe the Future has no connec tion whatsoever with this. We are looking to commission
new works of public a r t having secured funding within the Market Town Initiative. The funds avail able,'however, have to be matched by funding from Ribble Valley Bor ough Council, Lancashire County Council or private sources. Clitheroe the Future, as a respon
sible partnership, believes the choice of what could be funded in the field of public art should be a decision, which not only involves their membership, but also involves Ribble Valley Borough Council and Clitheroe Town Council, and as many interested residents as possi ble in that decision. We would like to invite represen
tatives from the Borough Council, Town Council and other interested residents to meet to explore this matter in greater depth. Could anyone who is interested
in this matter please contact our project manager, Richard Jackson on Clitheroe 421049 or 427886. ■
JEREMY GROUT-SMITH, Clitheroe the Future Partnership Limited ® Copy of a letter sent to Coun.
John Hill, Ribble Valley Borough Council.
• WE have received numerous letters on this subject. Lack of space prevents us from printing
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- | Write to: The Editor, Clitheroe Advertiser and Times, 3 King Street, CUtheroe BB72EW Editorial e-mail:
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easllancsncws.co.uk TV show will be
good for Valley I WAS very surprised to read the comments and complaints about last weekend's event, "Most Haunted," made by two - businesses situated in York Street; Qlitheroe, namely "Seven" and "Browns Bistro". Carol Horsfall, of Seven
Menswear, contradicted herself by attending the Monday night showing of "Most Haunt ed" because she had received complimentary tickets after the show’s presenter. Dr David Bull, had visited her shop and bought a suit to wear on the
showl Dr Bull told the audience
where he had bought the suit and named Carol Horsfall and her shop. What a brilliant free adver
tisement by a well-known tele vision celebrity on a very popu lar show! This alone should have made up for any inconve nience. Browns Bistro was also
patronised by the production team during its stay in and around Clitheroe as were many other catering and accommo dation businesses, including Eaves Hall, the Station Hotel, The Old Post House, Maxwells, and Chicken Deli catessen in particular received very large orders from St Mary's Centre. The production team con
sisted of 200 and the audience who attended the show was
also 200. I feel the loss of trade and
inconvenience experienced will be compensated because, after showing what the area has to offer, many will wish to visit Clitheroe and the Ribble Valley
in the future. You only have to reflect on
how popular Downham village has become after the television programme "Born and Bred" was located there.
N.J.BOWKER, New Market Street, Clitheroe
Is there a hint of sour grapes ?
AFTER reading the report on those businesses alleging loss of income due to the "Most Haunted" live production vans/lorries, I can only think it’s one of sour grapes? I am also at a loss to imag
ine how business was reduced due to the obvious fact the lorries were parked in a bus embayment and not a park
ing zone of public parking. The res t of the facilities
were parked outside the main shopping areas towards the Salthill areaof Clitheroe. Also, a t least one of those businesses benefited from
their presence. Dr David Bull, the studio
presenter for the show, announced during the warm
up that he had needed to pur chase a suit from a men’s out fitter who also had been given free entrance to the event as they were introduced to the audience prior to broadcast. So, on the one hand we have
businesses complaining yet, a t the same time, one of those self same businesses clearly benefited from it. I would also say th a t ,
belonging to the online com munity connected with "Most Haunted" the interest in vis iting the area as a result is fairly buzzing with excite ment over the locations fea tured. Yes, those businesses may
have lost revenue in terms of the level of interest Clitheroe now has (more so than any other broadcast or film crew has bestowed here given the sheer volume of viewers who watched the show), but in terms of gaining interest with the potential visitors bringing yet more revenue... Well? Clitheroe is now very firm
ly on the map thanks to "Most Haunted" live and it also served to educate many throughout the country on exactly what this area is and has to offer. Surely that, in the long term is good? Certainly, visitors to hotels
and bed and breakfasts would have increased over the week end as many had been con sulting on-line with people living in the area, including myself as to where best to
stay. There are obvious benefits
with the possibility of repeat
custom. I have no doubt other film
crews frequently visiting the area disturb (as i t is only inevitable) yet it is the "pres tige" and publicity of this particular event which seems to be generating some nega tivity from businesses... or could it be classed as "covert" advertising for
those
involved? By disassociation? Clitheroe was very fortu
nate to be the venue for this event as they are mainly held in the Southern half of the country and we are also the first NW venue to be used.
ALUN JAMES DAY, Queen Street, Low Moor
Parking needs
to be addressed I ALSO am very concerned about the parking in Lower Accrington Road, in Whalley. I use the Whalley Arms car
park frequently and, on turn ing left to return home, the oncoming traffic is in the mid dle of the road on account of the parked cars, which makes for a dangerous situation. This matter I reported to
the police two years ago. How ever, they said nothing could be done until “yellow lines” were established.
I t is a matter of common
sense to put this in order soon, before an accident occurs.
B. HILL, MoorHeld, Whalley
Still difference
in the numbers WHERE on earth does Bert Hardwick get his statistics from? (Advertiser and Times letters November 4th). Without wish ing to get embroiled in the main purpose of his letter, which was about racism, I am compelled to point out that at the last census the number of people in London who gave Christianity as their religion was more than four mil lion, whereas the comparative figure for Islam was 607,083. Without quoting the exact fig
ures, I believe that is not unrep resentative of the UK as a whole. Even on a world scale the present estimated figure for Christianity is two billion com pared to 1.3 billion for Islam I accept that in his letter he
refers to the Church of England and not Christianity, but he is not comparing like: Anglicanism is not a religion, but a denomina
tion. I t is a fact that Islam is the
fastest growing religion and that Christianity, at least in this country, is on the decline, but there is still a huge difference in the figures at the present time.
BULCAVANAGH, Hillcresl Road, Langho
Better criticism
from within I SEEM to have touched a raw nerve in Bert Hardwick (Letters, November 4th). I am not aware tha t I had
accused Mr Hardwick of racism, but surely he “doth protest too much, methinks”! The fact that he does not know me does not, however, prevent him from being personally abusive. That is the : true mark of one whose argu- ; : ment is bankrupt. He has, of course, misunder
stood the point I was making. Racism is not only expressed through explicitly racist lan guage, but can also be detect^ in the motives which underlie less explicit forms - the latter the more deceitful for that. Some people find it difficult to be suffi ciently honest with themselves to analyse their own motives and intentions. That is reaUy sad; if you can’t be honest with your
self, who can you be honest with? As to the alleged demise of the
■ Christian Church (which appar ently is also my fault!): in a mod- ern'secular society which,,as. your paper so graphically demonstrated last-week, finds the darkness of All Hallows Eve more compelling that the light of All Hallows Day, we have - thank God - lost much of the nominalism and the associated cultural "baggage" which has
bedevilled us since the Middle Ages. Yet we proclaim the same Gospel today as was proclaimed 2000 years ago. People like me may not proclaim it as well as we should - we are as fallible as any one else - but, as Jesus made abundantly clear, the prime responsibility lies with the hear er to respond or not. I cannot explore here the complex issues associated with faith in a post- Christian Britain, or the way Islam provides many with their cultural identity, but if Mr Hardwick would like to get in touch with me, I could lend him some books which he might find enlightening. He might then be able to
explain the point he was trying to make with his “fact” about the growth of Islam and the quality of Muslim leadership. I am afraid it was too subtle for someone as apparently inca pable as me of cobbling together a reasoned argument. As for the dear old CofE:
recently published attendance figures do actually suggest that, as with Mark Twain, the reports of its death might be somewhat exaggerated - although we are never complacent. But Mr Hardwick would be very wel come to come along to one of our many local churches and offer the support he claims is so lack ing. After all, it is always more honourable to be critical from the inside, where we are actually trying to do something positive to improve the human condition, than sniping destructively from a distance.
REV. PETER SHEPHERD, Easlham Street, Clitheroe
Plan flies in the
face of policy I WOULD like to alert your readers to a planning applica tion to increase the size of Shire- bum Caravan Park by extend- i i ^ i t into the two adjacent Edisford Road.
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units, of which 36 10 metres by the remainder
of 10 metres by the applica-
interests of
to t i r a ^ ^ ^ I suspect, and the evideife.pbints that way, that really it is to create additional homes on open countryside. More than 50%, 57 units, of
the caravans on the existing site are now residential caravans
with the occupants paying council tax. At the end of 2001 there were 21 units paying coun cil tax, now there 57 an increase of 171% residential homes on the site in three years. If the application were to be
agreed it would allow a small village to be set up on open countryside. This would be against the current policy. An application for just one house would be refused so what grounds can there be for allow ing 72 "permanent" residential
"Derek cmdliis^^aff at Althams Travel would like to pass on their thanks to all
the customers who have supported them so far in their temporary premises, at the Wendy House, 36 King street.
They would like to let you all know that if everything goes to plan, we are hoping to be hack in our newly refurbished shop mid December time
and would like to invite you dll to come and visit us."
structures to be
built.The site is on high ground with the land falling away on both sides. It will be visually intrusive despite the proposed tree planting. The trees will obstruct the views of the fells behind the site from the
south. If each unit of the proposed
units had only one car (and some will have two) it will mean a large increase in the number of vehicles using the road from Waddington to Edisford. This is a relatively narrow road, very narrow in parts, which is used by a large number of pedestrians and horses. It would make an already dangerous road even more dangerous. If the application were to be
allowed with restricted opening it would be impossible to enforce given the residential status of the existing site and the fact that it is proposed that both sites use the same entrance. There are other sites in the Ribble Valley with restricted opening, but a member of the council tax office of RVBC has informed me that all have some permanent resi dents, that is, they pay council tax. How does one distinguish between somebody visiting their caravan to check that it is OK and somebody who is resident? The application claims that
the park will provides addition al tourism into the area, this is considered to be unlikely. How will the park be promoted? I believe the existing site is
currently being updated. The Three Rivers site has up-
to-date prices for hiring cara vans. It also claims it will pro vide alternative accommodation and thus prevent existing dwellings and village property being sold as second homes. This is questioned. I know a lot of people, who have old caravans on the site, which they use as a holiday homes and they are expecting to receive notice to leave this autumn.
JOHN V. STANLEY, Chapel Close, Clitheroe
Thank you for
your support IN response to the letter from Mr Wri^t, of Blackburn, (Let ters, November 4th), we would like to thank him for his com ments and support regarding Clitheroe Market. As traders, vie appreciate the custom of all visi tors, local and from afar, espe cially during the previous wet, windy and cold months.We hope you will continue to support us as we always endeavour to offer a wide range of goods and enjoy meeting all our customers. Thank you to everyone who supports Clitheroe Market.
MRS WENDY TAYLOR, The Candy Cabin, MRS ALISON GLOVER,
Donuts Divine, ANN at Pastimes, MARIA EARITH, Maria's Lin
gerie, DAVID EARITH, The Cheese
Stall Y ou r l e t t e r s . . . O The Editor welcomes letters on any subject, but correspondents are
reminded that contributions may be edited or condensed, must not exceed 350 words and should reach us by noon on Tuesday. Letters with noms de plume are now only accepted for publication if
the editor agrees that there is a valid reason for the writer's identity to be withheld. Letters can be sent by post to the Clitheroe Advertiser and Times, 3 King Street, Clitheroe BB7 2EW, via e-mail to
vivien.meath@
eastlancsnews.co.uk, via fax to 01200 4434G7 or texted to 0779969G447. Letters submitted by any of these methods must, how ever, include the writer’s name and full postal address.
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