Tournament Director


What are his options?


This is the fourth edition of the Hendon Mob’s ‘Ask the Tournament Director’. Joining Matt Savage, Thomas Kremser and Jack Effel are three new contributors. They are Aviation Club de France’s Nicolas Fraioli, Tab Duchateau from Borgata and Dave Simpson from DTD in Nottingham.


his cards out of turn he will receive a warning/ penalty for doing so and I would also remind him to make his intentions clearer for future bets.


Tab Duchateau:


We use the half or more rule in this situation. The player who put in 150 would be forced to put in the 200 as a standard raise.


saying nothing - what are his options? If he then passes and his chips


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are left in the pot is action reopened to UTG when action gets back to him?


Could you ask your tournament directors what they would have ruled?


Thomas Kremser:


UTG+1 player made a string raise of exactly 50 per cent and has two options; he can fold and 150 stays in the pot or he can complete his raise to 200. If he folds the action is not reopened for the UTG player.


Matt Savage:


Without going into much detail and looking at this as simply as it is, in my opinion his only option is to RAISE to the minimum of 200. Nothing more nothing less.


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he blinds are 50/100 in a NLH tournament - UTG calls 100 - UTG+1 (who has 5,000 in chips total) throws in 150


Jack Effel:


The only option UTG + 1 has is to place 50 additional chips into the pot making the total bet 200 to the next player in line. WSOP rules state: “If a player puts in a raise of 50 per cent or more of the previous


bet but less than the minimum raise, he or she will be required to make a full raise. The raise will be exactly the minimum raise allowed.” In this case, 50 is fifty percent of 100; therefore, UTG + 1 is forced to make the bet 200 total to play.


Nicolas Fraioll:


I would tell the player who throws 150 that he has reached 50 per cent of the raise and has to complete the raise to 200 or he can fold and loose his 150 but it won’t reopen the action to UTG.


Dave Simpson:


Once he bets 50 per cent or more the bet of 100 he does not have a choice, he has to make up the bet to a full raise of 200. Action is then reopened. If he then passes


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The Mob Verdict:


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Quite a simple one on the face of it but this question is asked so frequently at the poker table we thought it might be an idea to discuss it. According to our panel of TDs there are two clear ways to deal with this situation. Either the player must make up the raise to 200 and he has no other option or he may choose between making it up to 200 or he may fold leaving the 150 in the pot.


If the player makes it up to 200 the action is reopened to the limper, if he doesn’t it is not. Matt, Jack, Dave and Tab say he must complete to 200. Thomas and Nicolas say he has the option. If we had to make a definitive rule on this we would go with the majority here forcing the player to make the bet up to the minimum raise of 200. The most important thing though is that whichever rule a card room uses they should use it consistently and fairly. Nothing is more frustrating for players than having two different floormen rule different ways at different times.


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