tremendously with raising money for AIDS awareness and being able to speak to scientists and doctors. That, I think, for me, has been my greatest achievement.
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And, of course, you know any person who has children knows that being a parent, there’s nothing like it, it’s just a fantastic thing. No-one can tell you what it’s going to be like and then you do it and it’s everything.
Can you talk about why you waited to speak out about your experiences as a woman in Hollywood after #metoo? Well, I never waited. I’ve spoken about situations at work and beyond, it’s just that it took a very long time for anyone to listen to me. You know, it’s a very delicate situation to be one person and lots and lots and lots of men. I mean thank God, I had brothers and an extraordinarily strong father. I have to say, I never thought of myself as a feminist because my father was such a hard-core feminist. He would call me in from the playground and say, ‘You know, you’re not trying your best because you want the boys to like you. Now go back out there and win.’ And I would go out and I would do my best and win and then none of the boys liked me – which has been a lot of my problem in life. Because you have to learn balance. You have to learn how to win. As a woman there’s a complex balance in that. So yes, you can talk about sexual abuse but you have to also function and work and live within a system that’s run, owned and operated by men. I mean I got fired before my book even came out and no-one had read it. These are the realities of life.
According to your book, your mother was also a strong person who told you to stand on your own two feet? I said to her once ‘Why did you never let me lean on you?’ And she said, ‘Because you needed to learn to stand on your own two goddam feet.’ But in reality, that was the best love she had to give me because she had no-one to take care of her. And that’s a little bit the way it is.
Alongside your work for AIDS awareness, you are a big supporter of the LGBTQ+ community - how did you get in- volved with that? It’s not that I got involved in something particularly. I just don’t think that anyone should be treated differently than anyone else. First of all, why does a gay person have to walk in the room and say who they sleep with and how they do that? No-one says to me, ‘Are you on the top or are you on the bottom? And what are you like and how do you like to have sex?’ I don’t have to walk in a room and explain how I have sex. And I think to ask someone to inform everyone who they have sex with and how they have sex is so violently inappropriate in every circumstance. It is appalling. It’s nobody’s business. It’s offensive. And it’s offensive to judge people by their sexuality or their religion or their skin colour or their race.
Finally, they are showing ‘Casino’ at the festival. Can you reflect on that? Have you stayed in touch with Scorsese? Yes, I did another project with Scorsese not that long ago called ‘Rolling Thunder’, a Bob Dylan project. Yes, we stay in touch all the time.
I haven’t seen ‘Casino’ since we made it and it did have such a big impact on my life because my dream as an actor was to work with De Niro. When I first went to my acting teacher, Roy London, he said to me, ‘What is your goal as an actress?’ I said, ‘My goal is to be able to sit down with Robert De Niro and hold my own.’ I remember the night we shot the scene where I come back from running away with Jimmy Woods and I have a sort of red, burgundy dress. We’re sitting at this huge table at a restaurant and he improvised at one point in the scene, and he said, ‘Yeah, you’re a really good actress.’ I remember I was smoking a cigarette and I looked at him and I thought, ‘Yes, I really am!’ because I thought, ‘I did it! I’m sitting opposite Robert De Niro.’ It was a great moment but it was also sort of a weird moment because who gets to reach their goal? So that’s why I wanted to see the movie with everyone together. Just to see what it’s like now so many years later. It’s exciting.
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