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I think this new album is your best yet, I believe it is. I mean, the first listen- through, I was like, “Oh, I like that song” and then “Oh, I like that song.” And it just kept going like that, right? So I wanted to ask you where the title, City Painted Gold, came from? That’s all kind of what was happening in San Francisco at the time. That was like you know, big money coming in and like I said, buying up all the houses and people getting kicked out, not being able to afford, like a lot of young people getting kicked out. It’s a lot of tech money coming in and taking over the city basically. So it’s unfortunate. But San Fran- cisco is still awesome for sure. A lot of bands that used to live in San Francisco can’t live there anymore, can’t afford it, so they have to find other places and they’re moving up all over the bay now, moving up across the bay to Oakland and wherever they can afford. So it’s kind of just a description of what was happen- ing at the time, really.


Oh yeah okay. So, the whole hippie vibe that had been there since the 60s is I guess, kind of out the door now… Yeah, pretty much.


Oh, that’s awful. That’s awful. Yep.


What can you tell us about the album as far as people involved and folks that deserve a shout out, you know, that kind of thing… Sure, yeah, well I mean, first of all everybody contributed to the songwriting on this one, which is pretty cool. It was a collaborative ef- fort. Everybody brought in songs and we kind of just work-shopped it and helped arrange each other’s songs and stuff. It was cool. We were all in the studio with a friend of ours Ken Reardon, who is an engineer and co-pro- duced the album. He had worked on Grace Potter’s album, and uh, Nickel Creek. He’s


got really good skills and he was great to work with and kind of helped us co-produce the album as well. We had the luxury of having a little more time in the studio so we got to take the time and really kind of get it where we wanted it to be.


That’s great. It was a great experience. We went into a few different studios one of ‘em being this place a little North of San Francisco and that was in- credible. It had like a wonderful view, great outdoors and stuff around there so we could go run around and then get back in the studio and play lots of songs.


Well, I tell you, there’s hardly ever any bad weather it seems like out there in California. I used to go out there every couple of years because my Dad’s fam- ily is from San Jose, and we would go to Santa Cruz beach and all that stuff and man it’s just so beautiful out there, so much scenery, right? Yeah, yeah! From the ocean all the way up to Sierra Mountains.


Especially if you’re on the beach look- ing at all the girls. (Laughs)


Wait, that’s just me. I’m just a dirty old man, what can I say? (Laughs)


Dirty young boys grow up to be dirty old men, make a note of it. Yeah, something I can look forward to.


If you’re lucky enough to live long enough you know? Anyway, as the band’s gotten more popular and every- thing, are there any folks that you’d consider heroes, or at least people that you really admire, that you’ve gotten to jam with or share a stage with?


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