history,” he recounted to Rogan, “when the deck can change.” He now believed one of those moments was at hand. So just a few hours after the assassination attempt in Pennsylvania, Means got on the phone with RFK Jr. and urged him to consider throw- ing his support behind Trump, rather than risk four more years of the healthcare status quo, by which time it might be too late. “I really felt, and he felt, like this could be a realignment of American politics,” Means said. Means asked RFK Jr. to call
Trump to discuss how together they could trigger a MAGA-fueled realignment of U.S. healthcare policy, and he agreed. Means next reached out to
former Fox News host Tucker Carlson. The two men then bro- kered the extraordinary conversa- tion that occurred later that same
DIAGNOSIS Surgeon Casey Means, M.D., quit medicine because she could no longer tolerate how it works. “We’re ignoring the root causes of why Americans are sick, and we’re profiting off of patients getting sick,” she says.
These agencies — the FDA, USDA, and CDC, all of them — are controlled by giant for-profit corporations.” — Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
night as a bandaged Trump took RFK Jr.’s call. Once the two contrarian rivals got on the phone, sources say, it soon became clear that the core principles they shared were far greater than their differences. “What RFK Jr. represents is
actually what Trump represents,” said Means, “and actually, what almost every American is feel- ing: frustration with this rigged thing that just doesn’t feel right, that you just can’t quite put your finger on.”
Among those “rigged things”:
Both leaders had been routinely vilified in the mainstream media, with RFK Jr. branded an anti-vax conspiracy theorist and Trump predictably portrayed as a Hitler- like architect and a threat to democracy.
Both men also had suffered the slings and arrows of lawfare and free-speech suppression at the hands of the political estab- lishment. And both objected to expend- ing billions of dollars on overseas wars while U.S. deficits spiraled and Americans were struggling to make ends meet. Above all, Kennedy and
Trump were both alarmed to see the health of America’s youth apparently being served up on an altar of technocratic greed while establishment politicians and the media looked the other way. Means recalled, “These were tear-filled conversations about why kids are getting so diabetic, about why we have such obese children in the United States, about why we have a fertility crisis.” At the heart of the Kennedy-
Trump mentality: A growing sense of alarm over the fast- metastasizing rates of chronic disease in America. Studies show over half of all U.S. adults now have a chronic disease, such as cancer, arthritis, cirrhosis, or COPD. Among those age 65 and older, that skyrockets to 85% — and by then, many are saddled with multiple chronic diseases that will dog them the rest of their lives. Beyond the human toll in pain, suffering, and mortality, it is by no means clear how much longer a nation saddled with a national debt of over $36 trillion can afford to invest more and more of its
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