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different to the tapes, and on its own. We did feel like the 'Tapes' were, but this feels more like an album now.


I watched an old interview with you guys where you sounded like you were about a month away from releasing 'Inconceivable Child…' - We were always saying that though!


Who called a halt on it first? Tat's a pretty brave move. It wasn't our end; it's never really been our end. We've always done stuff and finished it, but it was just the people that we were dealing with at the time never delivered. It was never our decision, although it was our decision when it was two years late, because we never really stopped recording, so those recordings were a bit old for us. Tat's why we got frustrated and went through a bit of turmoil to get through 'Tape One'.


For us we never stopped, so we were never aware. Te silence happened because that bunch of stuff never got put out, but we weren't just sitting somewhere moaning about it. We were always busy daeing stuff, always working, so we've been busy since. It all built up to the moment where we decided to take it on ourselves.


So Gee, you create the beats, don't you? How does it work with the other boys? It's never a set thing; you need to keep it open I think, so sometimes I'll have the bare bones and it can completely change by the end of the day. Or


If someone's playing wi' a bit of anger in them 'cause


pissed them off, you can see it and


someone's


You must have been proud of the material, even though it felt old hat to you, but looking back, are you glad that it didn't represent you as your debut? Yeah, definitely; I mean at the time it was one of those things where you feel passionate about it, but it's a blessing in disguise it not coming out. It lead to us being angry and wanting to learn how to do everything ourselves. If it wasn't for that, we wouldn't know how to make videos, how to put songs together and all that stuff. It just made us feel, 'we can dae this ourselves. We don't need other people to tell us what we need.'


At the time when that momentum dropped off, did you have to return to mundanity? Did you have to go back home? No, no, not really; it wasn't like that.


you can feel it.


sometimes it'll just be a phrase, or a melody and you just record it live, like that. We never like to set things in stone. We just don't have the attention span to stick tae one method! We like to excite ourselves and you realise that all that stuff is important, just as important as the sounds. It's the process, the way in which you make it.


I feel like shooting myself in the head for asking the old "influences" question, but your beats are feverish,


they're tribal, infectious - I have to know where they come from. Well my background, I grew up with my father listening to soul and reggae music and then when I met the boys, when we were fourteen, we were into hip hop, R&B and dancehall, stuff like that. Getting older, I discovered other producers and dub, George Martin and Phil Spector, Beach Boys -


- It's funny you say Phil Spector, because Mr. Martyr has a wonderful Phil Spector Wall of Sound feeling to it. Yeah, well it's the 'Be My Baby' beat.


Tis sounds really sycophantic, but I don't think I've been as excited about a band coming to Norwich as I am with you guys, because I haven't seen you live yet - - Oh, thank you.


Does it all go off? Are you a different animal live, do you think? Er, I think so, yeah. It's one of those things where we never like doing the same things twice; we're always too quick to get bored o' something, and I think that happens live as much as it does in the studio as well. You have to be on your toes and we like to make it so you're able to have movement in the songs and be able to do it differently than the night before. Also, just in general, how you're feeling that day - kinda honest when you're performing live is probably the best way to go. If you're having a bad day, then let everybody know you're having a bad day. If someone's playing wi' a bit of anger in them 'cause someone's pissed them off, you can see it and you can feel it. I think it's really about making sure you can do things off the cuff. We always do what we wanna do, so you should do the same. If there was no one there, we'd still be doing our thing, but if you're there, that's a bonus. Tere are no rules.


Emma R. Garwood MORE INFORMATION


Young Fathers play the second Pony Up night at Norwich Arts Centre on February 8th. Win a pair of tickets to the show, plus a t-shirt and album by


checking out Outlineonline.co.uk, or see p37 of this magazine. For tickets, go to www.norwichartscentre.co.uk.


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