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Clitheroe Advertiser & Times, May 13th, 1999 A n e Clitheroe dvertiser and 1 imes np, T p r i ] I Write to: The Editor, Clitheroe Advertiser and Times, 3 King Street, Clitheroe BB72EW |


Real boundary [of counties


HOW wonderful it was to drive around the Bowland and Kibble Valley area on Saturday and see the real counties signposted once


October 4th, 14 nights , bowling greens. ^ A.i. lA include of, tennis and We are delighted to be able '-'•■■n-Arena. Dec. 4th t e IL i


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to offer holidays to the winter sun. This two week long holiday is based at the Hotel Sol Magallul Park just about 200 yards for the golden sands and resort centre. This large hotel is well placed lor enjoying all of Magalluls holiday attractions. The cosmopolitan hotel has a range of facilities for your enjoyment. The resort itself has a choice of bars and the restaurants are very good, nearby sports facilities


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The price includes Transport from the local area Flights from Manchester Accommodation for 14 nights


En-suite rooms.


Evening meals Breakfasts Insurance is also included


again. All the way along the Hodder


and the Kibble there were bound­ ary signs welcoming people to either Lancashire or Yorkshire. The Koses Alliance did an admirable job of pointing out to people exactly where the true


county Sawley lies, they should consult the the renowned Pevsner Guides to the Buildings of Eng­ land. When the revised series appears, Sawley will be described in the West Riding of Yorkshire edition, and quite right too, because the editors use real, not administrative, counties. I, for one; have always known


would like to appeal for organisers for the Whalley and Gisburn Meals on Wheels schemes. We are also always happy to have volun­ teers to deliver meals on wheels - they usually go out once a month. It is only with their dedicated


Through your newspaper, I


counties lie — a matter which has caused much confusion since the administrative changes of 1974. As a Lancastrian - albeit one


^ and the misapprehension that they are in Lancashire needs final­


who lives in Yorkshire - I was doubly pleased to see the real boundaries of Lancashire acknowledged. Places such as Great Mitton, Slaidburn, Grindleton and West Bradford are historic Yorkshire villages,


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do on the Isle of Man we have left the itinerary entirely,


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Set like a gem in the midst of the Irish Sea the Isle of Man offers a unique combination of seaside holiday resorts, spectacular, mountain scenery and a wealth of historic fascination. In modern times, the Isle of Man is best known as a popular holiday destination with ample attractions to satisfy all tastes. The capital, Douglas, has a fine bay and an excellent shopping centre, restaurants, hotels and many places of interest for the visitor. there is so much to see and


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free for you to plan your own, making full use of the time available. The price includes Transport form the local area Return flights Airport/hotel transfers Accommodation for two nights Full Scottish breakfasts Attendance of an experienced tour leader


ly clearing up. I say this is a Lancashire patri­


ot, one who believes in my home county in its entirety, from the Furness Fells to the Kiver Mersey, with nothing taken away and


nothing added. To suggest that the villages of


Sawley is part of Yorkshire, as are the other villages on the Bowland side of the Kibble. The road sign on the A59, near the village, mere­ ly confirms the fact. This does not mean that Lancastrians who live here should not continue to owe allegiance to the Red Rose Coun­ ty. Of course, they should. But they must remember that Sawley is Yorkshire - part of the ancient and venerable West Riding - and that fact will endure forever, no matter where people pay their community tax.


SAWLEY RESIDENT. Disgraceful and


biased BBC I AGREE with the views of Mr P. McQuade in his letter last week about St George’s Day. I did notice that none of the


Bowland could be anywhere but in the West Kiding of Yorkshire is not just an insult to all Yorkshire- men. It is an insult to the real county of Lancashire as well. People must realise that in 1974


presenters and reporters on BBC TV's national and local news broadcasts I watched was wearing a red rose for St George's Day. Disgraceful, but only what I


1 Indeed, the Government pointed out that it could not have altered the real counties even if it had


only administrative boundaries changed. As the Government of the day pointed out, the changes had no effect on the real, geo­ graphical counties of England.


wanted to. So these counties still exist, as


help that we can keep the meals on wheels schemes operating. If you know anyone who might


longer remained a sport, but became a business where the salmon angler caught as many as he could for profit to make back the outrageous fees they were, charging, leading to a decline in numbers of the species. Only last year, a man on one of the local club waters caught 10 salmon in one day and he took all of them to


help, please ring the office on 01200 442513 or Sadie Baker 01200 425863 or myself, Joan Myers, on 01200 422822. We do hope that someone will


be able to help. JOAN MYERS,


WRVS, New Market Street, Clitheroe.


Crucial need for your views


THE Trinity Centre Develop­ ment Trust is about to start the first phase of a two-phase feasibil­ ity study over the future use of


the Civic Hall. The first phase involves consul­


tation with groups of people and indmduals who have some kind of interest in what potentially might be a Community Arts Centre in its broadest sense. During the first phase we will


have come to expect from what I believe to be an unpatriotic and biased organisation. Meanwhile, a poll showed that


94 per cent of Russians are against NATO actions in Yugoslavia - only two per cent


were for NATO. The Russians now feel under


do their historic boundaries. They are permanent, as permanent as the words Lancashire and York­ shire, which are carved on the masonry of the bridges which span the Rivers Hodder and Kib­ ble. Nothing can ever change


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them. The Roses Alliance is to be con­


July 26th, 10 days r ch. i days ;u;y .Zvih, 3 days


The two centres of Rome and Tuscany are reason enough to choose this holiday, but add a visit to the medieval town of Assisi and you have 10 days of interest, relaxation and a touch of class. Rome is a charming city, the most famous landmarks are floodlit alter dark and in the sunlight, ihe city sparkles, its white marble colonades stand against clear azure skies. The countryside of Tuscany is still thought to be very much the harmonious


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I landscape of the old Italian paintings, hardly touched by


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time. A highlight of this holiday is a visit to the birthplace of of St Francis, lover of nature and founder of the Fransiscan Order of the 12th century.


The price includes Three nights in Rome With buffet breakfasts Six nights in Tuscany Evening meals and breakfasts Return flights from Manchester British Airways Transfers in Italy Full day visit to Assisi.


gratulated for bringing the real boundary between our two great counties to the notice of the wider public. No one who cares for the history and traditions of England should ever forget where it lies.


ROBERT HAWLEY, Bclgrave Street, Skipton.


Sign confirms county fact


1 YOUR correspondent, Mairead Mahon, seems confused that Saw­ I ley can be a Yorkshire village, and


yet its inhabitants pay their com­ munity tax to Ribble Valley (Let­


ters Page, May 6th). Mrs Mahon has to realise that


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June 27th and October 23 rd


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This must be Ihe most delightful way to spend an early summer weekend. There can be few places left where you can totally switch off from the pressures of modern life so completely as Bruges. Its beauty and tranquility is outstanding, as belits the most perfectly preserved medieval city in Europe- It's atmosphere is totally unique, whether its a stroll by one of the canals, sipping a colfee in the old market square - or taking a gentle ride by horse and


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u’ I2 i! i. 9 days June 27th, 6 days


way we think you'll have a most memorable holiday.


The price includes Transport from the local area Irish Sea crossings Accommodation for 5 nights


june 26th, 2 days 4 t K ^ 7


June I I th, 3 days


Our holiday is based in the delightiul market town of Killaloe, situated on the banks of the River Shannon. The town is friendly and unspoilt. It has a good range ol water sports and a small cathedral dating back to 1182. Our hotel IS the Lakeside Hotel, a comfortable three star hotel, well placed lor exploring some ol the charming surrounding area. You can opt to join the excursions round and about or just rest and relax in Killaloe, either


En-suite rooms Irish breakfasts The services of a courier.


PEOPLE with sight ward to the event. They are


1 problems who receive the Ribble Valley Talking


I Newspaper met the vol­ unteers who produce and


I distribute it at a 21st I birthday party at West


Bradford Village Hall. The event marked the I anniversary of the launch-


I ing of the scheme in May, 1978, but the chief reason for the party was to give the two groups involved a


1 chance to moot one another. Ninety people attended,


I including 40 regular recipi­ ents of the talking newspa­ per, which contains taped readings from the Clitheroo


I Advertiser and Times. "The tape is sent by post


iW O CONTACT US jf^roihflre’^?ll bur


or for advice call, !^mi?otline.on, ' ......................Moya or Debbie on........ 13^^826 0870 608 6000 e l u s i v e h o l i d a y s f o r o u r r e a d e r s


1 chance to meet the volun- 1 teers," said committee I member Mr Geoff Holmes. "We have been holding


every week to people with sight problems who would otherwise never get the


I these parties every two years and they have become a special feature, with our


carriage, it’s serenity will amaze you.


The price includes


Transport throughout Accommodation for three nights. Central hotel. Breakfasts Visit to a Flemish brewery Chocolate and lace making demonstrations Ypres and the 1st world war battlelields A guided walking tour of Bruges The services ol an expert tour


guide.


I are changed every few years in local government reviews; and real (or geographical) counties, which are unchanging no matter what the administrative arrange-


there are two types of county; administrative counties, which


threat from NATO and all politi­ cal parties there are united in the view that NATO actions could lead to a Third World War. Now we have the NATO bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Yugoslavia. What are Bomber Blair and Dodger Clinton trying to do, start a Third World War? This whole operation has been


sell for profit. As I see it, there are only two


ways the EA can save the ^Imon stocks; first, it must prevent the pollution of our rivers and streams and, secondly, its officers must talk to the clubs about low­


ering their charges. If these things are done, then it


JOHN PEARCE, Fly-fishing instructor and member of the Salmon and Trout Association, Peel Street, Clitheroe.


Were you so


short of news? I AM writing with regards to the story on page 7 of last week's Clitheroe Advertiser and Times entitled "Store is Sorry Over 'Poor


Shoppers' Tag". I find it hard to believe you


also be undertaking a general sur­ vey by questionnaire. The second phase of the study


will take the form of the produc­ tion of a Design Brief based on information gathered from discus­ sions and visits of interest, a^um- ing there has been sufficient inter­ est in further development of the


Civic Hall. We are now inviting anyone


conducted outside the United Nations. Bombing is an act of war, and I don't want Britain bombing Yugoslavia in my name.


DEMOCRAT, Clilheroe.


Use the gardens for parking


DO the members of Whalley Parish Council walk through the village with their eyes closed? We keep hearing about the


problems of parking in Whalley - and apparently the borough coun­ cil has said; "Find the land and we"ll provide the car park." I run a shop that is probably in


interested in contributing to the consultation phase to contact us a soon as possible. Meetings of focus groups will be held during May and early June to look at areas of specific interest. Group meetings will be organised to look at these areas of interest; cinema, arts and culture, needs of children and young people, local business interests and needs and contribu­ tions from voluntary-and commu­ nity groups. Other groups may be formed depending on public


response. If you wish to contribute to this


consultative process please con­ tact either myself, Geoff Jackson, or Karen Farnhill by telephone or letter at Trinity Centre Develop­ ment Trust within the next two


weeks. Your contribution to the devel­


opment of ideas for future use of an important community asset is crucial. Without public support further development of new uses of the Civic Hall is impossible. Please write, telephone, fax or E-


mail us at; Trinity Centre Development


the very centre of the village and am constantly amazed at the amount of time and money being used to maintain a piece of land directly oppposite my premises that would probably hold 50 or 60


cars. The land in question is current­


! ments for an area. This latter type cannot be changed by central gov­ ernment, because they were not created by central government. Indeed, most of the 39 real coun­ ties of England were founded in


ly used as nothing more than a dogs' toilet and somewhere for the local youth to hang out at night. "Vale House Gardens" - what a


I Anglo-Saxon times and were I already ancient by the time of the Norman Conquest in 1066. These counties still legally exist today,


waste of spacel Behind the gardens is a bus ter­


Trust, Wesleyan Row, Clitheroe, BB7 2JY. Tel; 01200 427886 Fax; 01200 444509. E Mail; jigsaw@burnley.ac.uk.


GEOFF JACKSON, Community Development Worker.


Cut fees and


restore sport IN the light of the new salmon by-laws that have been brought


minus that sometimes, at school times, is actually used by buses - another total waste of space. Wouldn't you think that some­


I as the Royal Mail recently con­ firmed when it allowed mail users the option of using either the 1 administrative or the real county


one would notice these empty spaces and think of a way of alle­ viating Whalley's parking prob­ lems?


in addresses. When changing administrative


J. G. FARNSWORTH, King Street, Whalley.


1 read; "The new county bound­ aries are administrative areas, and will not alter the traditional boundaries of counties. Nor is it intended that the loyalties of peo­ ple living in them will change, despite the different names adopt­ ed by the new administrative


counties in 1974, the Government attempted to pre-empt the sort of confusion which Mrs Mahon betrays in a statement which


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counties." If anyone doubts in which


Thanks for the


WRVS tribute WE were very pleased to read the tribute to members of the WRVS from one of our Books on Wheels clients, and we would like to express our thanks to him. We would also like to point out


into force by the Environment Agency I would like to draw read­ ers' attention to the factors I think are responsible tor the decline of salmon in our rivers and


streams. I have been fly-fishing now for at


least 40 years and I am also a fly­ fishing tutor. In all these years, I have seen much pollution of our


were so short of news that you would even bother to give it space. However, if this is the sort of


might be a sport once inore, instead of a business for profit.


veniently published for the public­ ity of the Conservative candidate,


■ on election date. This is not a spurious, but, in


my opinion, a sinister misappro­ priation of a religious church cere­ mony that offers supportive pub­ licity to a local political faction. For the record, if not superflu­


R. PARKER, St Chad's Avenue, Chatburn.


Jo’s appeal to


help Mencap HOW would readers of the Clitheroe Advertiser and Times like to cycle across some of the most breathtaking scenery in the


world? Experience the wonders of


Egypt on an eight-day, 500km bike ride of a lifetime and cele­ brate the new Millennium by cycling through the last 3,000 years of history along the River


Nile. I would like to invite you to


thing you are going to print, could I too register the fact that I am absolutely "incensed" - with the


National Lottery. I consider myself an excellent


customer, having bought a ticket without fail every week since it started, and yet I find that other people, who have spent much less than me, have been rewarded with prizes amounting to millions of


pounds. Where is the justice in that, I


UNLUCKY JIM.


Can you help me find Colin?


I AM writing to you in the hope that through your paper I may make contact with one of your local residents, Mr Colin Mars-


den. During the years 1951 to May


1953, we were together doing national service in the Signal Pla­ toon 1st Battalion South Lan­ cashire Regiment. We were stationed at Trieste,


ask you? I am encouraged by your story to seriously consider making a formal complaint.


saddle up in support of Miencap by taking part in this awesome adventure. Mencap simply asks you to pay a £250 registration fee and raise a. minimum amount of sponsorship. After that, flights, accommodation on a four-star Nile cruiser, meals and bikes are all included. The ride takes place in Febru­


ous, Christ Church, Chatbum, is the church of my own baptism.


ary, 2000, and Mencap seeks cyclists and non-cyclists to take up the challenge. It is a chance to get fit and make new friends - and Mencap will help you every step of the way as you prepare for the ride. Most importantly, your support will give people with learning disabilities an opportuni­ ty to make the most of their lives. Please call 0645 777 779 to


Mencap at; mencap.events@dial.pipex.com


Mark the Millennium with Mencap. jo brand A 1947 memory


of singer July WHAT do you do if you find some old correspondence? Do you


Khartoum, and the Suez Canal zone. Colin was one of our tele­ phone exchange operators, while I was a despatch rider. At that particular time, Colin's


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throw it or keep it as the odds are that you will throw away the


wrong piece? I found some letters from 1990,


one of which was from a Philadel­ phia lady, who was ivriting a film study project on the actress and singer Julie Andrews. She had done a lot of research


home address was 26 Taylor Street, Clitheroe. He was a brick­ layer by trade, a decent left-hand­ ed batsman and a large-as-life


churucf 0]* Unfortunately, I lost contact


with him, but I know he got mar­


ried and had a family. If Colin, or any family and


friends, could let me have any information with regards to being able to make contact with him, I would be very grateful.


PETER (KNOCKER) ROBIN­


SON, G Bellairs Road, West Derby, Liverpool, Lll 8LN. Tel; 0151 270 1200.


‘Sinister’ use


rivers caused by firms and farm­ ers, which has clearly not helped the situation. I have also been keeping an eye


of ceremony THROUGHOUT the centuries


on angling clubs and some of the illegal methods used by certain members to catch their quarry. When I started fly-fishing tor salmon and trout, it used to be a sport and when they caught a salmon they were overjoyed and it was taken to grace his or her


that we have Meals on Wheels schemes running in Clitheroe and most villages in Ribble Valley.


table. However, when clubs started to


charge outrageous fees and pri­ vate buyers came along, it no


there has been a spurious and blurred delineation between Church and State, ecclesiastical and secular, parish and politics. This delineation has been bla­


tantly ruptured by the Chatburn Parish Church hierarchy that invites Nigel Evans, Conservative MP, and his local Conservative entourage, for a service at the Chatburn Parish Church on a Sunday preceding a local election week. This was recorded in the edition of your newspaper last week, con-


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on Julie, who in the late 1940s, had toured England with her par­ ents, Ted and Barbara Andrews. I had seen the three of them


perform at Blackburn's King George's Hall in 1947 and was able to send her a few items and a


book by J. Cotterell. As the years rolled on, Julie


Andrews became a star. Her films have included "Mary Poppins" and "The Sound of Music", mar­ vellous successes, which showed her talents as a singer and actress. Obviously, she was disappoint­


ed not to have been asked to play Eliza Doolittle in the film "My Fair Lady" as she had played the role in the Broadway production with Rex Harrison and Stanley


Holloway. I will never forget the pleasure


EDMOND CAMBIEN, Bolland Prospect, Clithcroe.


® CORRESPONDENTS wishing


to use a nom dc plume are asked to always include their name and address as a gesture of good faith. Please could "Fed Up Mum Chris­ tine," who wrote to us last week, confirm her identity in writing, mentioning the subject of her letter so that we can be sure it is genuine - Editor.


invited to bring a friend along and the committee provides transport." The tables were beauti­


fully decorated with floral arrangements, made by Mrs Hilda Metcalf, and these and other gifts wore presented to the partygoers


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before they left for homo. Entertainment was pro­


vided by the Simonstone and Read WI Choir and committee chairman Mr Charles Pearce thanked the volunteer workers and entertainers for making the , occasion an outstanding SUCCO.SS. Ribble Valley MP Nigel


Evans attended and paid tribute to the work of the organisation. Also attending, before the


end of their year of office, were the Ribble Valley Mayor, Couh. David Smith, and the Clitheroo Mayor, Coun. John McGowan. Our picture shows party-


1 people eagerly looking for­ i -rTr vn. - ^ 1 ^ 1


goers, with gifts of flowers, and committee members, at the party. (090599/12/08)


I got from seeing the show in its opening week at the Drury Lane Theatre, London, in 1958.


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