UBER UPDATE
Muhammad Saeed - I wonder how much the Judge charged Uber for writing this decision. It’s like you commit murder and appear before a court and say “Yes I killed someone but after that incident I have behaved well.” Corruption at its best.
I can bet if a driver gets
6 or more points in his licence the Judge wouldn’t renew his licence so how have they renewed Uber’s operator’s licence is absolute mystery.
Dennis Raven – Good, that will save 1000s of jobs.
Mark Kidd - So if you get an Uber be careful the driver may be a sex offender or anything because the system can’t really check who’s driving you around.
Jake Sackett - Someone took a nice big brown envelope I'm sure.
Reacting to the announcement, Mike Smith - chairman of Medway Licensed Taxi Drivers’ Association - said: “This is absolutely horren- dous. The evidence was stacked up against them, but they just seem to get away with getting what they want.
“They do nothing, they don’t know the area and don’t live here. Our drivers have said there are a good few hundred of them who oper- ate here.
“We pay our dues, stick to the legislation set out by the council and do our ‘knowledge’. Our priority has always been the safety of pas- sengers.”
Mr Smith, whose NPHTA affiliated association has about 350 mem- bers, is calling for an urgent meeting with the council to see what action is open to challenge the decision. He said: “They say it's an extension of the licence for 18 months, but it might as well be 18 years. I can’t say too much at the moment but we are not going to take this sitting down.”
PHTM FACEBOOK FOLLOWERS HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY AS WELL
As you might imagine, when PHTMFacebook broke the news on the evening of the judgement, a few people had a few things to say(!). Space doesn’t permit us to include them all, but here is a sample:-
Richard Claire Atkinson - …watch how fast Uber get rid of all their drivers once driverless cars arrive quick and fast, money is king and they want more. Bye bye drivers
Marc Jacka - If had lost the licence I suspect the drivers would have been loyal enough to Uber to quit eh?? Nope, all the rats would have jumped from the sinking ship onto the good ship OLA etc!
Robin Sargent - So the little man gets screwed over again in favour of a global conglomerate that doesn’t even pay tax in this country - total and utter joke.
Andrew Lucas - Well, that was a surprise. They are fit to have a licence but will have restrictions placed on them. Doesn't make sense. Wonder if this judge will be found to have family connections with Uber investors like the last one.
Zuber Tantwala - Nothing new, the higher you go the easier to pay off influencers. Corruption breeds corruption.
Jimmy Wharton - Told the chap on here that they would win and it would be business as usual. He didn’t believe me. Starting to think this country is corrupt. Disgraceful decision !!!
OCTOBER 2020
Joe Winstanley - Good to know that P/H drivers can now take thou- sands of unlicensed trips and you won't lose your
badge....cos it was in the past.
Vyacheslav Yurievich Tubaltsev - Uber must be banned country- wide.
Waseem Mahmood – A lot of people on here still stuck in the 60s - move on with the times. Uber is here, money talks. That's exactly what has happened. You will either have to adapt or compete. Come up with a different better idea. Black cabs had monopoly until today, now it's somebody else’s turn.
THOUGHTS ON THE FIT AND PROPER TEST
Gerald Gouriet QC and Charles Holland, who appeared in the hear- ing on behalf of the Interested Party, the LTDA, are well known within taxi industry legal circles. They had this to say about the out- come:-
“There is no question that his conclusion was one which the judge was entitled to reach on the evidence before him. What is unusual about this appeal, however, is that the respondent (Transport for London) did not invite him to conclude otherwise. At no point did TfL ask the judge to uphold its decision to refuse to renew Uber’s licence. Instead, TfL asked him to decide for himself whether Uber, at the date of the appeal and on the evidence before him, was a fit and proper person.
“…In our experience, either a licensing authority argues that its decision is right and defends the appeal, or it concedes that in light of new evidence the decision is no longer sustainable, and the appeal is allowed by consent. For a licensing authority to take neither one position nor the other, and throw the thing to the court to decide for itself, is in our opinion to abandon its responsibilities as regulator. It is something we have not encountered other than in the two Uber licensing appeals.
“…Mending what has been broken, apologising and undertaking not to do the same again, has proved a winning formula for Uber. There cannot be many licensees whose repeated breaches of con- ditions and regulations are of so little consequence.”
Meanwhile, we await a Supreme Court judgement as to the status of Uber drivers as to whether they are employees or workers. That one has been going on for over two years. But it was agreed that Uber pay TfL’s legal costs of £374,776 for last month’s hearing.
We also await the revelation of the 21 conditions on the new licence, and to see how Uber London Limited “behaves”, as they promised the Court.
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