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It was horrible. Terrible. Walter was great. And Uncle Walt's Band, we had it. We just never, for some reason, got the opportunity. Musically, I think it was just up there. I think Walter knew that. I think he realized what a great songwriter he was. On one hand it could be a very exciting thing, and on the other hand it was kind of sad that we never met up with the right people. I think that was what it was all about. We had some opportunities, but they always seemed to slip through our fingers kind of.


After you guys didn’t hit it big in Nashville, you moved to Austin. What did you have in mind when you moved to Austin? By this time, we were just looking for work. We just weren't making enough money in Nashville to survive, and I think the goal in Walter's mind- and he was running the show- was to get a recording deal, but that didn't happen in Nashville and we had to go to work. Of course they have all these great ven- ues in Austin, and we played a lot of venues. That's how we made a living.


What prompted you to move back to Nashville in the late eighties? Well, I knew I was going back to Nashville when I left Austin. I left Austin about 1984, and I knew it was time for me to go back up there and really focus on the songwriting. Austin was really changing, and had begun to really embrace the pop-new wave scene. I had wanted Uncle Walt's Band to be the band that busted out of there. Then the scene changed again. I believe the blues broke during that time, so half the town was blues and the other half was punk rock. It just wasn't happening down there. Austin kind of did an about face. I have always been interested in songwriting, and I was more leaning toward the country thing anyway, after spending so much time in Texas and seeing how much fun it was to play in the big dance halls. I really came under the


spell of Bob Wills and George Strait, all the big country acts that would come through. I began to have a really deep appreciation for music for all people. Uncle Walt's Band had tended to play for a certain age bracket, you know, and it was always kind of awkward when we were put into other situations. Then I began to hear a lot of country radio. Ricky Skaggs was covering a lot of older Webb Pierce, Ray Price kind of stuff. I was living at Isle of Palms, South Carolina when I heard "On the Other Hand," on the radio by Randy Travis, and I said "That's it!" That's what I wanted to do, right there, and finally some- body did it. Prior to that, I felt Hank Williams had written the greatest country songs and nobody was going to beat that. So then I felt Nashville was starting to do some of the kind of thing that I did. Then I thought maybe I could get a toe in the door up there.


Speaking of Randy Travis, you and he


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