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during our conversation. Sanati is a serious
man. He is soft-spoken and small of stature — not much more than five feet tall. During our first interview he wore a dark suit, a silk tie, and shiny dress shoes. The next time we met, during the early afternoon, he wore slacks, a freshly pressed black button-down with discrete white polka dots, and a beige sport jacket. Despite his love of
adventure, for now Sanati has put aside aiding refu- gees through the asylum process. He has moved on to what he believes to be a loftier cause — suing the Iraqi government for billions of dollars on behalf of the Chaldean community. He believes winning the case will cause the United States to up the number of Chal- dean refugees allowed to immigrate. “They allow 72,000
refugees into the United States every year. The Iraqi share is only 2000 to 3000. There are 200,000 people stuck in Iraq. There are 60,000 in Tur- key in the camp. There are almost 20,000 to 25,000 in Lebanon, almost 80,000 in Jordan, and 15,000 to 20,000 in Egypt. Those people have hope. We cannot kill their hope. “If we win our case,
[Iraqi immigrants] won’t hurt your economy. They won’t need a penny from the government. We can bring in money by push- ing our claim. According to the Iraq constitution, the one forced by the Americans, every single person that was hurt from 1968 to 2003 has to be reimbursed. The Shiites got their share. The Sunni got their share. The only people that didn’t get even one penny are the indig- enous people. “We own the real
estate that other people
are on. Everyone wants the territory to add to their share because it is the richest piece in Iraq. [The Chaldeans] own a portion of the oil and the wealth of Iraq — billions of dollars. According to the Iraq constitution, the territory belongs to the indigenous [Chaldean] people. I think we will win. I have met with John McCain, Duncan Hunter, Barbara Boxer, and the assistant of John Kerry. I think we are going to win. “I don’t think people
should stay [in Iraq]. That territory is not going to be stable for another 20 or 30 years. A lot of people want to die over there. They don’t want to leave their country, and the church doesn’t want to empty the country of Christianity.” With the mention
of church, Sanati’s nor- mally soft voice goes up an octave. He blames the church for many of the struggles Chaldeans face and for much of the upheaval in his country. “The church is the
worst dictatorship on the face of the earth, because they are not following Jesus. I am against the church 100 percent. Their rules ruined our life. They controlled us for the last 1400 years to be a peace- ful people, and we have to follow whatever they say. Four hundred to five hun- dred years ago there used to be seven million Chris- tians in Iraq. Now there are only 240,000. The church didn’t want us to do any- thing. Instead, they teach us that our hope is not here, you have to look to heaven. But that is wrong!” As for the future of
Iraq, “I don’t know what is going to happen,” he says. “My brother lives in France now. He says, ‘We are in a war zone; all of Europe is.’ If our government does not do something right now,
within two years they are going to be on our soil. If Hillary Clinton becomes president it will make things worse; [her] pol- icy is the same policy as Obama’s. At least Trump clearly says that he will not let any of those peo- ple get into the country. Americans, the media, they need to understand that [Muslims], even if they are very educated, when it comes to reli- gion they become crazy. It is their mentality, they came by force. They came by sword; when they read the Koran it says you must use force.” When I point out the
irony that someone who has spent the better part of his life aiding refu- gees seeking asylum in the United States would be a Trump supporter, he grimaces and says, “I think Trump has the majority of the Chaldean vote. You don’t know. The American people don’t know what is going on over there!” He lets out a weary sigh and repeats again, “You don’t know! If we don’t do something right now, within the next ten years, they are going to take over this country. Don’t you see what is hap- pening in Europe? You have to react. The people need someone strong in the White House. For the last eight to ten years we have gained enemies. The fact that you take over Iraq, and the people were thinking Iraq was going to be paradise because of your help, they receive you with the most love that they have, but now you have turned them all against you, and that is what is happening in Syria because of the policy of Obama. The people they think that if we have a strong person in the White House things will be better.”
— Siobhan Braun ■
24 San Diego Reader April 21, 2016
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