14 Clitheroe Advertiser & Times, October 2nd, 1997
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LAST week’s reading took me back nearly 30 years to the young lady who wrote about all the things that the youth of Clitheroe have to do to keep them off the streets and occu
pied. It surprises me that the present-
day council can’t remember their own days as teenagers around here. If you did not drink, you had no fun because tha t was what we had to call leisure. I suppose we were a little bit
council seems to know about. We are gradually becoming the dead centre of Lancashire, with more old folk’s homes than we have normal living accommoda tion. I t’s starting to seem that way, at least. Let’s give the youth something
luckier, due to it being the ’60s, but you wouldn’t have known it if you stopped in Clitheroe. It is stuck in a time zone only our
to do at night, besides getting drunk and causing trouble to these old people, who the council, in their wisdom, seem to think are going to keep Clitheroe alive and kicking in the next Millenni um. Get with it. I want my grandchildren to have something to do besides get ting drunk and causing trouble.
A good use for the Civic Hall would be a disco; it might get used a bit more than it does at the moment. Thank heavens that lot’s gone.
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the dead centre of better get with it
Next time somebody wants to build things like that, let them go down to the bottom of Hen- thorn, at least it will be in the right area when it’s finished with. What is happening to people in Clitheroe? Have they forgotten what it’s like to be young and to want to enjoy themselves. Remember Scrooge? I think Clitheroe is becoming a training ground for them. We are, I think, being ruled by
people with southern, Scottish and Welsh accents who, for their own reasons, have had to evacu ate their own places of birth and want to change our way of life to suit their own wants. After all, we’re only locals and we don’t know what’s best for us. ■ Our trouble in Clitheroe is that
we see all these strangers come in and make them welcome, and they thank us by changing our way of life to suit what they con sider suitable for themselves. I have always been proud to say
I came from Clitheroe wherever I’ve been, but now I’m a little bit more reserved. The last time I
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BEING unable to attend the meeting about prob lems in my home area of Clitheroe, I have read all the reports and spoken to people who attended. I have noted the kneejerk reaction to what was said, tha t is, we must have a bye-law to prevent alcohol being drunk on the street. May I respectfully point
Little more tolerance Time c o u n c i l woke from licence trade
up to residents
them say, we are allowed “off sales”? Correct, but only in a bottle with the top firmly on the bottle, and not in a glass! If licensees started to act
But wait a minute, I hear
and shouting. Again, the law is in place—all that is required is the. will to enforce it. Perhaps some of the com
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out that the required legis lation already exists and all that is required is the will to enforce it. The Licensing Act covers
responsibly and to the law, some of the problem would be dealt with before the full weight of the law is brought down on them. Regarding the under-age
plainants are just “nim- bys” (not in my; back yard), but we all have short memories. A lot of the complainers
drinking, it is well known which off-licences are sup plying this, and again it is up to those licensees to think carefully as to how much money they will lose if their licence is revoked? As regards the noise
. think more carefully about their clientele. Yes, we all
around the town and there being nowhere to go, the after-time pubs should
know where to go and I personally do not object, except when they come out at 2 a.m. or 3 a.m. bawling
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WITH the exception of the one worthy member, Bert Jones, will our cloth-eared councillors please
get a grip? I t was indentified some years ago (at the time of the
bunker fiasco) that the Civic Hall Cinema was most unlikely to ever be a moneyspinner and, in fact, would prove a challenge to break even, but it was a great plus to the town and deserved to have assistance as an amenity.
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Clitheroe to offer some thing other than town cen tre retirement homes is paramount. The cinema is envied and can benefit all sections of the community and, if properly run and advertised (it certainly isn’t at present), can be even more of the real gem
“hidden assets” when doing its “brilliant” feasi bility studies? .The opportunity for
again, that because it costs some money, it is not worthwhile? Why doesn’t it cost in the
Is the council now saying,
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witness a small cinema in Thirsk, North Yorkshire, which is a tourist attrac tion. I t is ironic that a retired
are in their 50s and 60s, but cast your mind back to when you were in your teens and 20s — the fight ing a t the parish hall dances or the Con. Club or Whalley Rooms (Sand Piper), buses being turned back at Primrose Bridge. Yes, things haven’t
I WOULD like to thank, through your letters page, Louise Godfrey for her well thought out and well writ ten letter, “Clitheroe is dying”. I couldn’t agree more with her comments, but only wish more people had the time and inclina tion to put pen to paper and voice their views. I t’s about time Ribble Val
schools and health centre we all desperately need? How much is it going to
friends and relatives what a wonderful shopping
contribute to ■ see our streets policed properly? How many more Sunday
haven we have. I’m so looking forward to
- licensed trade. If not, well, come the Brewster Ses sions, who knows?
changed that much. Per haps a little tolerance and more responsibility by the
B. TOWNSON, Shawbridge Street,
Clitheroe.
ley Council woke up to the views of Clitheroe resi dents and traders. Does it have any commonsense, or are they all blind to the fact that any decision the council makes does have a long-term effect rather than a quick fix to pull in more revenue. How much more revenue is the council getting from all the residential develop ments which have been built on every spare piece of land? How much is it going to contribute to the new
. food and new goods stalls ' is it going to allow to be sold at the auction mart on. Wednesdays and car boot
markets/car boot sales is it going to allow? How many more charity shops is it going to allow? How many more fresh
sales. Everybody is: turning a ' blind eye to all these ques tions; everybody is too busy, or is it because we just don’t care? : Some of our local traders
still close for half a day or full day on Wednesday! I saw three coach-loads of visitors last Wednesday; I’m sure they’d be delight ed with our ghost town and go back from whence they came to tell all their
S u r e l y w e s h o u l d w o r k a s a c o m m u n i t y a n d n o t s p l i t o u r s e l v e s
VERY rarely does something bother, me enough to put pen to paper, but last week’s article on late-night
apparent was a “them- • and-us” attitude on both sides. People have drunk in excess since alcohol was discovered and, having spent many years working behind a bar, it makes little difference, young or old, as to their behaviour when drunk. Is an extra hour or so real
drinking did. One thing that was very
the town centre opposite a pub. At weekends especial ly, I was frequently dis turbed at night, having to listen to noise and bad lan
guage. Although unpleasant and
amount of young teenagers around town late at night, who see the pub-goers hav ing a good time, especially on warm evenings, when they spill out into the streets. Having been to an off-
annoying, that is one of the penalties of living in a town centre. I am amazed a t the
ty going to cause so much / trouble? I doubt it will — it’s been around for a while. A few years ago, I lived in
ing and, although they may have been 18,1 doubt they had the courage to refuse all those teenagers of roughly the same peer group. Clitheroe is quite dose-knit, where everyone knows everyone else.
to be in the pubs. - Two young girls were serv
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couple, non-car owners, come to Clitheroe by train for a night out at the Civic Hall when suitable films are showing (we advise them), and yet others from the town with transport depart to the multi-com plexes! There are supply problems
Street, is where it is situated. ; . The democratic voice of the majority should always be listened to, be it the residents of Holden Street or nation
Clitheroe. What I do object to, like most of the residents of Holden
wide. If an independent democratic candidate was to stand in
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to secure films for individ ual cinemas. More effort is needed. Who would want to invest in a contract when the threat of closure looms again? Please get a grip to ensure
JOHNAUSTER, Hillside Close, Clitheroe.
we don’t, by backdoor van dalism, lose forever a prized town asset.
£240 has been stolen from a vehicle parked at Pendle Training Estate in Chat- bum. The near-side window of
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the Scania articulated lorry was broken during the inci dent, which happened between 3-30 p.m. on Sat urday and 12-30 p.m. the following day.
with microphone, valued at £200, was stolen, along with six audio cassettes by various artists, including Oasis and Genesis, and £10 in cash.
Anyone with any informa >
tion is urged to call Clitheroe police on 01200 443344.
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licence, I was shocked to see the numbers .of teenagers buying alcohol because they are too young
, Surety we should work as a community and not split ourselves. There will always be the minority who cause trouble, but I wonder if the late-night drinking issue is being used as an excuse for some of the troubles, Clitheroe suf fers.
INTERESTED PARTY, Clitheroe.
details, a lot was said but very little done. We stopped for the summer holiday and it was never restartedl No one REAL LY wanted to know.
Perhaps part of the prob lem could be solved by giv ing them somewhere to go. At 14,1 was elected chair person of the “Think Tank” committee (as men tioned in Louise Godfrey’s letter). Without going into
Christmas in Clitheroe — the Christmas lights will be a sight to behold. Christmas trees, with lights, stuck out on poles scattered aboht the town will make a wonderful dis play.
But who cares? Let us close all our pubs. Let us close our only cine
ma.Let us close all our shops. Let us allow more residen
' shopping.
tial developments. Let us all go out of town , i
Let us watch our children s class sizes rise and rise. Let us watch our health
kets/car boot sales.'' Let us all sit back and
watch our town diel SUE RAMSINGH.
.
centre burst at the seams. Let us allow more mar
Amazing,
that towns bonfire has
said it my friend said: “Oh! The dead centre of Lancashire, eh? ^So please, councillors, and those
o teU them what they should
do, before their town
becom.es Lancashire’s biggest graveyard, give the youth and young citi zens something to do to burn off their energy where they areno causing problems for other res dents, and possibly keep some of the money they spend in tne
Maybe then we might just keep the town alive!
been scrappeg:
JUST a short letter
to express my con cern and utter disbe
lief that the town b o n f i r e has been
cancelled on public safety grounds. Having been involved
in the early yearn of
this event, I find it a m a z i n g that this
hugely successful com munity tradition (for
that is what it has b e c o m e ) , should be
stopped. Certainly from a ^
view, there was never any other single night to compare for the club all
Rotaract Club point of
pulling together to serve the hungry masses. I believe the safety record
o ve r som e 20 y e a rs h a s
been very good, with last year’s injuries being the result of windy conditions
causing sparks to fly. If the bonfire is indeed
cancelled for this year, we'..' will only return to the pre
vious situation of several smaller and less-controlled fires all over the town with a much higher risk of injury and damage to property, nuisance, etc. Surety there must be time for a rethink on behalf of
the organising clubs, and I appeal to whoever is in
charge to set out the argu ments in print and please continue with this excel- - lent event for this year and many to come .
DAVID BRASS, Castle Street, Clitheroe.
B e s t a r e a s h a v e f l u o r i d a t i o n i n c o m m o n
THE report in last week’s Advertiser of “Good News for Area to get its Teeth into” is good news regarding Ribble Val ley children needing fewer dental fillings. B u t th en D r J. G. Whittle, d ental public
If he looks at the tables for the UK, he will find unfluoridated areas have as good or better records of dental health than many fluoridated areas.:And. this, without recourse to an insidious chemical such as fluoride, with its attendant risks. There has been a great amount of money on offer for the first person to sign that fluoride is as safe or efficacious as is claimed. No one has yet claimed this money. The “natural” fluoride that is mentioned as occur- ing is a different fluoride to that used for adulterat ing water supplies artificially. Certainty sugary foods and drinks are a factor in dental decay.
health consultant, goes on to say th a t the best areas had one thing in common, fluori dation of the water supplies. ;
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H.HOWORTH, North and Midland, Group Against Fluoridation.
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