with grief very differently. Some people are able to move on very quickly. Some people aren’t; they need more time. You have to be fl ex- ible enough to be able to handle all of that; you can’t tell everyone to move on because some people can’t. The human misery this caused is incalculable. Consider all the chil- dren who have grown up without fathers or mothers, some of whom
ON THE TSA: “
It’s worth it because we didn’t [screen] on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001 . . . if we had, all these people would have gotten to live out their lives.
I’ve known intimately, the parents who have to live with the greatest nightmare of any parent: losing their child. You can’t calculate the kind of pain that this continues to cause.
”
There is so much partisan bicker- ing. Did we fail to learn the lesson of unity that 9/11 taught us?
I believe that America learned the lesson of unity. And I believe that if, God forbid, we had another attack, we would be just as united. But the reality is, that attack was beyond any of our imaginations, the worst attack in our history.
When this country faces crisis, it comes together. The kinds of things we see being debated now, although they are very important, are not of the dimension of Sept. 11.
Our country has always been
divided by people who want a very strong central government and peo- ple who want much more diverse states’ rights and individual rights. It’s always been divided between people who believe in very heavy gov- ernment spending, and people who believe that heavy government spend- ing is very damaging, and spending should be done in the private sector to be really effective. These are deep
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philosophical, ideological differences that are real. And I get very annoyed when people demean others who have strong views. That’s what America is about. We’re about some people who believe taxes should be raised and some peo- ple who believe raising taxes would devastate our economy. Then we’ve got to debate it very carefully and come to some kind of an accommodation. Maybe that’s the part that we’re missing — the art of compromise. And that is not a bad word. You can be true to your princi- ples and still be able to compromise. I worked for a man who was able to do that — Ronald Reagan. Everybody invokes Ronald Reagan. He and Tip O’Neill would have set- tled this months ago. Ronald Reagan, unlike President Obama, knew how to be a leader and knew how to really forge bipartisan compromise. President Obama, unfortunately, is a highly partisan president. So that makes everybody else very partisan.
Is there anything that can be done to make searches by security agents at airports less intrusive?
I am more tolerant of it, because I saw what happens if you don’t do it correctly. And, believe it or not, I get screened just like anyone else. If I fi t whatever their protocols are, then I get screened. Some people say, “Oh, gee, you don’t have to go through it.” Well, you don’t know TSA! There’s no exception for anybody who might be a government offi cial . . . But then I say to myself, “It’s worth it. It’s worth it because we didn’t do that on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, at that level.” And if we had, all these people would have got- ten to live out their lives and all these
Rudy Giuliani: Sept. 11 shouldn’t have happened. It wasn’t predicted; nothing like that had ever happened before.
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STEADY HAND As he did in 2001, Giuliani continues to offer comfort to families of 9/11 victims.
children that are growing up without fathers and mothers, things would be very different for them.
The TSA’s job is very important . . . it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack. You’re going to search mil- lions of people, but if you don’t, that one could get through. Look at what
happened in
Detroit a year-and-a-half ago, when [underwear bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab] got through [Amster- dam security]. And he got through the screenings that presently exist, and he was landing in Detroit and the bomb didn’t go off — thank God. So this
is absolutely necessary.
The TSA is not perfect, but we don’t want them to let down their guard.
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