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of a quality of life is good. I feel I’m very blessed to have that right now where we can travel a little bit. Of course, travelling is not as easy as it was. But I was born in New Zealand, raised in Australia and of course, I’ve been in America for 27 years, I’ve lived in Nashville. Amazing.dedicated and was going to make it work.


So you’re living the American dream, let’s say, moving from Australia to Nashville when you when you were 20? It’s interesting that I’m following in my parents’ footsteps completely because they were both born and raised in small towns in New Zealand and they wanted bigger, better opportunities so they moved to Australia. I was raised in Australia, but I wanted bigger and better opportunities. So I moved to America. And it’s what we do. I mean, my great grandparents came from Germany. Our ancestry is all German. So it’s in the family blood already to travel to another country at some point.


The record is called ‘The Speed of Now Part 1’ – so will there be more parts? Is it a conceptual work? I don’t know about that. I wrote a lot of songs and recorded a lot of songs that didn’t make this album, but I’d like them to come out. So I thought maybe instead of making a 25-song album, I want to put out a ‘Part 2’ at some point. It’s a very diverse album and ‘Out the Cage’ is quite a pop song? Yeah, well very high energy. I love all kinds of music, I’ve always listened to all kinds of music because growing up playing in cover bands, I grew up playing other people’s songs, top 40 songs and country and pop and rock and blues and soul, r&b - everything. So it’s always been a part of my music and I’ve just


been able to explore more of that that kind of music in the last three, four albums, where I’ve gotten to work with a lot of different people and have fun and see what music goes together.


Nile Rodgers is on ‘Out the Cage’ – how did that come about? We collaborated together on an album I did called ‘Ripcord’ and we became good friends over the years. When I was writing ‘Out the Cage’ with Breland and two other writers, I said, ‘This is the kind of thing I can hear Nile playing on. I think he would love it.’ So I sent it to him and he called me up and said, ‘Bro, bro, this song is crazy, man. It’s such a crazy song. I love this song’. And he put some amazing guitar on it and it ended up on the record.


Do you give each other tips on playing the guitar – you both have distinctive styles? When we met in 2015 at a recording studio we just started jamming and playing together and we just clicked, playing together, jamming in the studio, just a great sense of rhythm that was very compatible with each other. He’s one of the great rhythm guitar players of all time, no question, phenomenal.


In it you sing ‘Every time I get angry that’s when I start runnin’, runnin’ out of your cage’, is it a good song to let off some steam to? Yeah, a good song to break out of anything, whether you’re sick of lockdown and stay-at-home orders and you’re sick of this quarantining and you just want to break out and start running. Or whether you’re in a job that you’re sick of, you know, it’s holding you back, whether you’re in a relationship that you’re stuck and you don’t know how to get out. An unfulfilled life


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