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A Lift & Move USA (supported by the SC&RA, SC&RF, the NCCCO Foundation, and KHL) event in progress. This is one of the organizations that promotes engagement in the skilled trades through youth-focused events.


between us we’re both a couple of loud-mouth jerks that are not afraid to ask questions and hopefully it’s provocative enough to move the needle. It came out of that, just a couple of guys talking and becoming friends and saying, what can we do?” Tere is a certain degree of tension, for lack of a


better word, between the co-hosts that powers the very informal, conversational style of the program. As Pat describes it, “Me and Mike [really] hate each other to be honest.” In fact, these are two friends who are each intent on giving the other a hard time about anything they can, and at every chance they get, because, well, who needs a reason for that!


IN ADDITION TO VIDEO, THE SERIES IS AVAILABLE VIA PODCAST ON NUMEROUS STREAMING SERVICES INCLUDING APPLE, GOOGLE AND SPOTIFY.


To further embrace this conversational style, the


program has adopted a warm-open where each episode begins by joining a conversation already in progress, and the viewer catches a sentence or two of that before the hosts formally open the episode. Te viewer or listener joins a conversation already in progress. So why is a video podcast the right medium for this message?


34 MAY–JUNE 2020 WIRE ROPE EXCHANGE


Bridging America’s Gap is another group that organizes youth events in the trades


In fact, the show is made available on a variety of


audio streaming services including iTunes and Spotify, and Pat observes that “I’m really surprised at how many downloads we have on a weekly basis. It comes down to how people want to consume it. Whether it’s iPhone, whether it’s the car on the way to work, the type of show that we have is, I think something you can listen to in the car.” Pat continues, “But I do like the in-person, there is no substitute for face to face interaction, I’ve been blessed with having that sense of being a pretty good judge of character, being able to read people, and being able to go off of that. Seeing when someone is uncomfortable, knowing how far to push them, and really try to get the best or the most honest response from them.” And he’s pressing people just hard enough for a very specific reason. As he explains it, “in a day and age of


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