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always listen to him.” And I thought, there was a wise guy. So


I did get some things in there and I think that a great way to judge a producer is to listen to the album that they make after they split with the producer. You know what I mean? It is understandable. I think that the first album has a certain sound and whether it is good or bad it doesn’t matter, it has a certain sound. There were little things that I like to do that was appropriate for them. When we split up I was rooting for them to make a great album. I remember the day when the next record came to my house and I put it on the turn table and looked at the record and said “okay, kick my ass” - and I thought it was the worst album they had done.


You had produced the first three right? Yeah.


I guess the second was my favorite. There are things I like about the first one.


Absolutely. I had never heard anything like that at that time. Yeah,me neither. The thing we had in com- mon, because I was from New York and they were from Jacksonville, so you know, we did- n’t have too much in common. One thing that we did have in common was we worshiped the band Free. On every album we did at least one track that was a tribute to Free. On the first album it was "Simple Man" and on the second album it was "I Need You," second track. "On The Hunt" was the third one. All three of those songs were where we were going for that Free thing. One thing that I loved was the music festivals and all of that especially Mon- terey Pop. Were you hands on there? Yeah, I was assistant stage manager.


What do you recall about that festival that you can share? Well, I think that the most important thing is


that it was the first one that had ever been. I worked in the planning stages of it and there were so many things that came up that we had to deal with that had never happened be- fore. When you took a lot of people like that and put them on a show, kind of like a Dick Clark Roadshow or Alan Freed Roadshow. Each band would come out and play about three songs. There was a backline of amps or stuff and everyone would just come and plug in, you know. Then there was a backup band for people that didn’t have a band and they would finish a song and the band would play them off and then the next band would come up. I knew we weren’t going to do that. I re- member saying to the stage manager, “What are we going to do between bands, because it is going to take about 20 minutes to change the stage?” He was just going to play some good music on the PA system. I said, “Really,


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