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Clitheroe Advertiser & Times, November 11 tit, 1!)!>.1 9 Clitlieroe 22324 (Editorial), 22323 (Advertising). Burnley 422331 (Classified) Letters


Roefield Centre loss is comparatively tiny


IN last week’s edition of the “Clitheroe Advertiser and Times” I note with interest that your anony­ mous co r re sp o n d e n t “Utterly disgusted” sug­ gests that the Roefield Leisure Centre should be closed should it fail to be self-supporting. I would not for one


second deny his or her right to hold this view. What puzzles me, how­ ever, is that many of our other local institutions such as libraries, swim­ ming b a th s , s p o r ts centres, parks and gar­ dens operate on a very similar basis, “losing” very large sums each year.


services listed above, the loss incurred at Roefield in the last financial year (around £5,000) is tiny. I have used the word “loss to describe- this phenome­ non. This is an unfortunate choice of language, as I believe the majority of people reg a rd th e se


By comparison with the No white elephant


IN reply to “Utterly Dis­ gusted” in last week’s “Advertiser and Times,” I should like to as sure him/her that Roefield Lei­ sure Centre is no “white elephant” (his or her words). Roefield provides sport­


full year was over £70,000 and there is every pros­ pect of the same result in the second year. It takes a lot of custom­


The turnover in the first


ing facilities for people of all ages and there is an average attendance of 1,000 each week.


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ers to g en e ra te th a t amount of money and a good manager and staff to cope with it. The charity formed to


and non-profit making and these enthusiastic people raised £80,000 in various ways to make a start to


the project. The problem has been,


and still is, a lack of work­


ing capital. Ribble Valley Borough


build and run this well- used centre-is voluntary


Council and Clitheroe Town Council are well jus­ tified in supporting this on-going project for future


generations. At present there are


well over 300 children using the centre each week. If we can encourage more children to become involved in sporting activi­ ties, they will have no time or inclination for vandalism.


COUN. MYRA CLEGG, Chairman, Recreation and Leisure Committee, 60 Pendleton Road, Wiswcll.


While you’re at it .


• “Iaccoc” ac Viov


the price of living in a civi­ lised society. Local authorities pro­


‘losses” as being part of


vide most of our recrea­ tional services but, by contrast, Roefield is in being, and continues to operate, through the efforts of a management committee of volunteers supported by a very small but enthusiastic team of employees. I have to take the view


THIS weekend, my son and I were fortunate enough to be treated to an afternoon on the nverbank of the


River Ribble, with Martin James. He freely gave his time to instruct two young boys


in the art of angling and yet the session was marred bv the intrusion and thoughtlessness of a couple throw­


ing sticks in the river for their dog, which disturbed


that, where an organisa­ tion is efficient, small operational losses should be underwritten by local taxation. (Please note the word “small.” Blank che­ ques are not required!) The detail of this is com­


ledge of angling and nature, but also by his enthusi­ asm and dedication to youngsters, his aspiration for their futures and, above all, a commitment to do


I was impressed, not only by Martin James s know­ . , ,


the ducks, the fish and the tranquility. However, patience was rewarded, after dark, witn


the landing (and return) of a large fish and we returned home elated.


something about it. Instead of criticising the younger generation, labell­


plicated. However, for purposes of local taxation, Clitheroe is regarded as comprising 4,290 average households. I find it hard to believe


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ing them “hoodlums and thugs” (Nigel Evans, November 4th), perhaps we should all be assessing what WE, as adults, individually, in societies, on the council) are doing to shape and motivate children. I sincerely hope that Martin James’s campaign for


that the average Clitheroe family would not be pre­ pared to pay an extra £1 or £2 per year to keep facilities like Roefield afloat, i.e. perhaps about 4p per week per typical household. The more pros­ perous would pay rather more and those in difficul­ ties little or nothing at all. Roefield was established


MRS CLARE HYDE, Moor Hey Cottage, Knowle Green.


Doing good surely is a good thing


to provide facilities for all, including disadvantaged groups. At the moment some 1,000 customers per week are taking advantage of the facilities. Can this be described as “a handful of sports-minded people?” Is our local community really too selfish, mean and short-sighted to pro-


I AGREE with “Utterly vide help on the small Disgusted” who would like scale described above? If to close Roefield Leisure this is really the case, then Centre.


library, the swimming Our community could then baths and the town’s foot- fairly be said to deserve ball pitches and return to the kind of persistent ero- the good old days, when sion of services which we illiterate children swam in have seen over the last the river and played foot- decade and which seems ball in the street.


Let’s also get rid of the with “Utterly disgusted.” I find myself agreeing Smart


lower the school leaving I would welcome com­ age, reopen a few coal ment, be it favourable or mines and the workhouse otherwise. My telephone and enter the 21st century number is Clitheroe 23131 and I am not afraid to sign my name below.


While we’re at it, let’s In conclusion, may I say well set to continue. as if it were the 19th.


| PETER HARGREAVES, 8 Warwick Drive, Clitheroe.


COUN. J. S. SUTCLIFFE, 22 Shays Drive, Clitheroe.


I WOULD like to call on the council to consider licensing all car boot stallholders. If a small fee had to be paid for a licence, there


How to cut car. boot crime


would be a record of all stallholders, what they were selling and where they were operating.


COUN. DAVID BEESLEY, The Beehive, 35 Whalley Road, Sabden.


This would help the police to monitor the sale ot stolen and counterfeit goods and help to cut crime.


I AM always disturbed when people use the phrase “do-gooders” in a sneering way, as I believe Nigel Evans MP did in last Thursday’s “Westminster


Viewpoint.” If we are not to be “do-gooders,” are we then


Times” reports?


tine Beggs’ work for the Low Moor play area, oi the commitment of many people to the Crossroads organisation, or a fund-raising effort foi Romania aie good work that deserve praise. Do-gooding or, to use better English, doing good, is to my mind a thoioughly


I should have thought that, for example, Chris­ .


wholesome activity. Of course, I know that the term “do-gooder” has


overtones of softness, naivety and misguided mteife ence But if we think someone has those faults, let u. say so and not hijack the idea of doing good by giving it


another meaning. Surelv we are here to do good, or be do-gooders, if


one must use that phrase. If not, we may as well be


in the jungle. It is easy to play to the gallery by saying popular


things. Our words must have substance. I would be grateful if Mr Evans would specify exactly who these “trendy do-gooders” are, who have been allowed by the Conservative Government to influence our society for


the last decade and longer. If he does not wish to name individuals, perhaps


he could suggest the types of people who, he believes, are the so-called do-gooders of our age. Does he, foi example, mean school teachers or magistrates or social workers? I doubt if many in these groups in his constit­ uency would admit to being a “trendy do-goodei.


I suppose we could call the Samaritan in the famous story soft, naive and a misguided lnterferer. Jesus. on


the other hand, praised his =omP“ss'°"a^ pn(H;gs°°sdl^ s and said: “Go and do the same. But then Jesus was himself the supreme doer of good.


THE REV. RODNEY NICHOLSON, St Paul’s Vicarage, Clitheroe.


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I scheme proposed by j NWOME would have com- mended i ts e l f if the cement company had 1 owned Bankfield Quarry.


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I As for rail transport, NWOME has not thought through his proposal. Hav-


! ing personally set out rail I tracks incorporating work- I able gradients and nego- | tiable rail curves and hav- ; in g h a d c h a rg e of • Lanehead Quarry for some j years in its railway days, I l can assure him that what would start out as difficult would rapidly become impossible. He cheerfully comman­ deers BR tracks, assumes


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crusher without a thought as to how to discharge them. Regarding quality of stone, calculations were


always based on 79% CaCo3 requirement. He says “The Bellman site contains a 20% high qual­ ity stone” — a meaning­ less statement. In the cal­ culations I made years ago, three-quarters of the stone was over 86% CaCo3 and even the shale was


47%. The cement company


received £1,250 for land for the road. I have care-


that this was all the com­ pany received. NWOME cannot see that, if bis claims were true, the final cost of the road would have been £606,000, not £356,000 as quoted in the LCC press release (Jan­


uary 15th, 1973). I gave two figures in my


letter, totalling just over three-and-a-half acres, and have accurately worked out that 10ft width of road occupies 0.94 acre. G iv en NWOME s


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W e a k en in g c a s e b y g ro s s e x a g g e r a t io n


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of healthy debate about any matter of public con­ cern, as this proposal is, but do feel that some of the opponents are weak­ ening their case by indulg­ ing in gross exaggeration, guesses based on inade­ quate knowledge and unproven innuendo. Such tactics will only persuade those who have already decided what they want to


Now I am all in favour suspended for a month November 4th) abounds - •


1 • few, if any, would detect a


reduction in the dust fall­ out. To state that a mas­ sive increase in dust fall­ out is predicted if Bellman is reactivated is way off


the mark. The letter from “Anglo


believe. I dislike dust falling on


my car as much as anyone when the wind is in the “wrong” direction, but I don’t make the mistake of blaming the cement works only and, even more to the


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e to tne wuuiu vav —- - q^ ^ l tPhe quarty opera- credulity.


Saxon” (“Clitheroe Adver­ tiser and Times” issue October 28th) quotes the cost of £100m. for a new kiln and its control equip­ ment. From my know­ ledge, that costing is more appropriate to a complete one u n i t p la n t . The writer’s suggestion that Castle Cement is so near to being finished that it would eke out its days


Vilame supplying stone to road- stone plants is beyond


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I’VE never written to a newspaper before, but I feel strongly about the threatened closure of the Sunday and Wednesday sales at Clitheroe Auction


Castle Cement has designs on Worsaw Hill is mischie­ vous innuendo. I’m sure the cement company wouldn’t waste its money buying a hill it would have no hope of getting plan­ ning permission for, even if the owner was willing to


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