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More thoughts on ‘Dicky Pay


RECENTLY there have been several letters about Dicky Pay Shay. As the farmer of this land, along with my father for the last 32 years, I would like to add my thoughts on the subject. Dicky Pay Shay is the


second parcel of land that the footpath leading from J u b i l e e Mi l l p a s s e s through. It is an unusual T shape and it was (5.73 acres in size, complete


with the stream and boggy


Dicky Pay Shay, we have always accepted the fol­


copse. Regarding the name


lowing explanation given


by the late Mr T. M. Armitstcad,' the deputy town clerk for a good num­ ber of years and a gentle­ man of considerable know­ ledge who excelled in historical matters. The oldest residence in


based hauliers used to keep their horses. “ G a u d y ,” w h i c h


Then “Gaudy Croft.” This is the small square of


town is accepted as being Shawbridge Cottage. It is known that the Page family lived here in 1G81. The High Moor was the town’s largest common on which gentlemen of the borough could put their stock. Whether Dicky Pay Shay was common land or not 1 do not know, but


it is fair to assume that it was not enclosed and that the Page’s would have the right to this certain piece of land. In other words their share. If a family m e i n b e r w a s c a l l e d Richard, you would get Richard Page’s share, Dicky Page’s share, and


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tion of costs, the under­ mentioned parish council also sought to cut its meeting expenses to zero and now meets in a local hostelry; the “bible” hav­ ing been consulted which stated that such action was permitted if there was nowhere e ls e free of, charge. There should certainly


be no lack of interest for the public to attend! There are further points


on “the opportunity for a financial saving” which


Joan Parkinson may wish


our seven payments in l!)!)l/ ! )2 — a wholly excep­ tional year; the usual num­ ber of payments being con­ siderably less! The Audit Commission,


to consider. 1. The cost of auditing


of which so much is heard, charge us 3.75 hours at £21.05 per hour = £117.3!) (inc. VAT). Now no doubt Wadding-


ton is very much like the parish council I administer and docs not send the head of its paid service abroad, lend him/her small or extremely large sums interest free, or engage consultants at £3,000 for two mornings work to cal­ culate the same person’s performance related pay! In short, the lowest


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form of democracy is levied with a tremendous bill for simply offering its parishioners a basic con­ sultation service. 2. The cost of elections,


or as is more the case, no elections, because suffi­


cient candidates are ordi­ narily found so as not to cause an election. Here the borough coun­


cil chooses to ignore one of its discretionary powers not to charge parish coun­


cils, and instead levies half the fee it would normally charge if there was an election — in our case £134.75!


T h e Autumn


N is san C o l le c t io n .


I AM not the borough council’s legal officer, but I may be able to assist Joan Parkinson, of Waddington. Oil the basis of escala­


original bill for accommo­ dation costs of £10!).17 (later reduced to £3G. 17 on appeal) and your readers should understand how expensive it is for parish


Add to the above our


councils to meet their min­ imal obligations.


BRUCE BOWLES, Clerk — Bolton-liy-


Bowland. Gislnirn Forest and Saw le y P a r ish Council.


My thanks for a grand night


MAY I express my thanks to the organisers of the l!)!)2 Torchlight Procession, which Pm sure gave pleasure to all that saw it, young and old. I myself have seen several over the years, hut


supplied the transport and to the pcEiple wlui (lid a marvellous job on the floats' decoration, the hands that gave it a good boost, the children who never appeared short of energy, and Inst hut not least, the crowds who came from near and far to see such a grand spectacle on such a


this one was one of the host. Special thanks should go to the firms that


lovely night. 'Phe firework display at the end, and on tiine,


was a great ending to a night I’m sure a lot will


remember for a long time. Again my thanks to everyone who took part in


a mammoth preparation that went like clock­ work; and who said that crowd behaviour was out o f hand, no way, not in Clilhcroc on Torch­


light night. Well (lone, everyone.


K. McTEAR, Flat l la, Manor Rond, Clilheroc.


over the years you Dicky Pay Shay. Sadly it is no longer G.73


acres in size, as the new High Moor Park has dis­ sected it, and it will disap­ pear along with other fields and unusual names. For example: “Gar- licks," where the Wellgate


N o th in g to stop


p ra c t ic e


MRS PARKINSON, in her letter published last week, invited me to com­ ment on whether a room in a private house can be used for a meeting of the parish council.


The matter is governed


by section 133 of the Local Government Act l!)72. This provides that if a par­ ish council does not own a suitable public room which th ey can use free of charge, it is entitled to use a room in any school main- t a i n e d b y th e loc a I authority, or any room which is maintained out of the rates. It cannot, how­ ever, under this provision, demand the use of any room used as part of a pri­ vate dwelling.


Section 133 deals with


the right of a parish coun­ cil to demand the use of certain rooms. It does not prohibit the use of a room in a private house where this is volunteered by the owner. In my view, there is nothing to stop such a practice, provided there is reasonable accommodation available for those mem­ bers of the public who w i s h to a 1 1 e n d t h e meeting.


PAUL TIMSON, Chief Legal Officer, Kibble Valley Borough Council.


Truly magnificent!


WE brought the children to Clitlieroe, long after time for bed, A procession and some fireworks, was all that had been said, And goodness, how glad we did, what a wonderful event, How much hard work and how many hours, some people must have spent, To put on such a wonderful show, a carnival of light, And finish it off with a tremendous display, A truly magnificent night!


MRS VALERIE ASHWORTH, Rainhall Road, Barnoldswick.


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THERE were 124 newly-calved dairy cows and heifers forward nt Thursday’s sale at Gisburn


£1,090 (average £800.79), second quality to £780 (£721.01), first qua l i t y he i f e r s to £1,100 (£888.28), second quality to £780 (£722).


Auction Mart. First quality cows made to


and heifers forward. Cows made to £035 (£025), heifers due in


There were four in-calf cows


September to £010 (£805). 'orward were 20*1 calves and


made to £2-10 (£107), heifers to £122, Limousin X bulls to £225 (£172.30), h e ife rs to £130 (£107.00), Belgian Blue X bulls


102 stirks and stores. Calves: Charolais X bulls


to £270 (£222.10). heifers to £172 (£150.10), Simmentnl X bulls to £222 (£170.30), heifers to £158 (£132.20).


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made to £21-1 (£180.75), other Continental X bulls to £250 (£118.50), h e ife r s to £08 (££00.35), Hereford X bulls to £200 (£150.75), heifers to £80 (£-10). Friesian X bulls to £100 (£11-1.10), h e ife rs to £1S0 (£157.50), Angus X bulls to £115 (£82), heifers to £130 (£75.75).


Blonde d’Aquitaiuc X bulls


Charolais X bulls/steers made to £377 (£308.50), heifers to £-115 (£ 3 8 7 . 2 5 ) , L imo u s i n X bulls/steers to £-150 (£305.50), heifers to £015 (£.11-1.35),.other Continental X bulls/steers to £-178, heifers to £378 (£273), Friesian X bulls/steers to £205 Black Polly X heifers to £2-18.


Weaned s tirks and stores:


were 058 cattle and 3,811 sheep forward. Hulls: Continental light made


In the fatstock sale there


to 137.8p (123.-Ip), medium to 1-tOp (122.01)), heavy to 120.Sp (123p); o th e r light bulls .to 120.tip (100.5p), medium to 119.2p (It 1.3p), heavy to 103.8p (9S.2p). Steers anil heifers: Continen­


N ew s from the Villages BAS,HALL EAVES .


Quiz night A social quiz night held at


liashall lilavus Village Hall was enjoyed by all. Quiz mas­ ter Mi- Alwyn Boilings had a -arying list of questions to tax


the" minds of contenders tor the title “Brains of Bashall.” All th e teams were very


close with only half a point each separating the eventual winners. H a r t ley 's Heroes wiio were followed by the Fantastic Foxes and ltawkin’s


Rebels. A vote of thanks was given


bv Mr John Hartley, leader of the winning team and chair­ man of Hashall Eaves and Great Mitten Parish Council. Members of the village hall committee and helpers pro­ dded a cheese and wine sup per throughout the evening.


TOSSIDE held in Tosside Institute, in


Drive At a whist and domino drive


aid of funds, MCs were Mr T. Robinson and Mr W. Kenyon. Winners were: P. Green­


wood. M. L is te r. E. Sand­ erson, R. Browii, D- Ives, M. Robinson, C. Robinson, C. llodson, F. Calvcrley. Draw: L. Brown, E. Met­


calfe, M. Robinson, M. Lister, S. Willett and G. Parker.


WHALLEY


senior citizens’ drive, in Whal ley were: Ladies — Mrs M.


Senior citizens Whist winners at the Abbev


tal light steers made to 113.2p (107.Sp), medium to 120.2p 0110.2p), heavy to. HS.Sp (110.Op); .other light steers to 107.8p (lUOp), medium to 113.2p


(102.5))). heavy to 105.“ (00.3))). Continental light heifers made


to 120.2p (lOO.Op). medium to MS.2p (tOSp), heavy to 130.2p


(107.Op): other light heifers to 102.2p (100))), medium to 101.8): (07.2))), heavy to 07.2p (87.5))). Cows and hulls: Grade one


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cows made to 07.Sp (0-1.1))), grade two to 03.Sp (SS.5p), grade three to 88.0p (72.7p), grazing cows to 03.2p (73.3), mature hulls to 100.2p (07.0p). Sheep:''Light lambs made to


DeLaurier, M rs J . Walmsley. Ucnt s — Mr ,1. Whitehead


Mrs A. Coggins. Dominoes: Mrs R. Nutter


Mrs N. Ambrose.


Embroidery from India


THE E m b r o id e r e r s Guild’s Whatley and Dis


OO.Gp (0U.2p), standard to 7S.0p (0 0 .Sp),' medi um to 77.3|? (G7.Gp), heavy to 75.3)) (0-l.Sp), overweight to 03.Op (00.3p). Shearlings made to 53.0p (40p), ha l f -br ed ewes to £33.20 (£20.55), horned ewes to £19.SO (£1-1.75), r ams to £3S.50


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(£24.05). In the produce section there


tronic Auction involved a total of 030 lambs. Medium made to 150)) (155p), heavy to 154.5p (151.75p).


were 0.340 tonnes of straw fonvard. Wheat straw made to £32 per tonne. Tne Beacon North West Elec­


triet Branch is to hold meeting at the Spiritualist Church Hall, in Greenaere Street, Clitheroe, tonight at 7-30, when Norma Heron will give an illus­ trated talk on “Embroi denies from India.” “ New members are


always welcome,” said secretary Eileen Johnson


“You don’t have to be an expert — a love of embroi dery is sufficient.” The branch caters for


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In te r e s t in g p ro g ram m e


a t W h a l le y TWO forthcoming events iL Whalley Library are the


visit of author Audrey Howard and the start ol


the Ribble Valley district’s w i n t e r l e c l u r programme. Audrey Howard is


writer of popular novels including “The Skylarks S on g ,” “The Morning Tide” and “Ambitions. " She will be giving a short talk and signing hooks, and there will he an oppor­ tunity to ask questions. The event takes place on October 7th at 7-30 p.m. Pickets, which are free,


are available at the Whal­ ley library only, from Sep­ tember 25th. The winter lecture pro­


gramme puts its best foot forward on October 5th, with a talk by John Shaw entitled “ 1 0 0 miles on foot in the Alps.” The even in g, which


s ta r t s at 7-30 p.m includes a slide show with footage along one of the classic hill walks in the world, the Tour du Mont Blanc. ’Pickets, which cost £1


a r e a v a i l a b l e f r o m tomorrow. Granted bail


THE Ribble Valley busi­ nessman charged with 2S theft offences involving £0 0 0 , 0 0 0 of investors' money appeared before Clitheroc magistrates on Tuesday.


Roger Aiden Griffiths •


(33), of Stocks House, Bol- ton-by-Bo wland, wa given police bail to appear before magistrates again on October 20th for com mittal to Crown Court. Griffiths, whose consul­


tancy Roger A.’ Griffiths and Co: (In ves tmen t Management, and Finan ciai Planning) has been at the centre of a Fraud Squad investigation, had p r e v io u s ly appeare before magistrates on July 2 1 st when he was also given bail.


Vending cash


wide area, including the Ribble Valley, Pendle and Hyndburn.


THIEVES forced open vending machine in greenhouse at Primrose Nurseries, Whalley Road, Clitheroe, and made off with £35 between mid night and 12-30 a.m. on Sunday.


land which is immediately behind the town’s football ground; which brings me to a question. Has anyone got hand-me-down stories of gambling here? I ask because a lot of George 111 half pennies and pennies have been found all-over the field. Because of its secluded nature and prox­ imity to the old town,


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While field names don’t


make s tr e e t names, it would be a gesture if these names lived on in the new estate for the scores of Clitheronians in the Shaw­ bridge and Waterloo areas who perhaps preferred the green fields.


MR GEORGE WHITTAKER, High Moor Farm, Clithcroe.


THE recent correspondence regarding “Dicky Pay Shay” has certainly prompted a great deal of "speculation regarding both its location and the meaning of the name. As far as I am aware, is interesting because, like


Origins of old name


documents for any “shay" name attached to the path up to High Moor from Jubilee Mill. Oddie’s Map of 17SG,


there is no evidence in “Shay in Clitheroe, it also has a “Page” farm name


drawn up when the High Moor was being enclosed (LR0:MAE/2/ll), clearly shows “The Shay” leading up to High Moor from the Mearley Brook close to what is now Shawbridge,


(referred to in the enclo­ sure schedule as “Shay Bridge.”) A recent article by M.


C. Higham, a copy of which is in the local reference library, d is ­ cusses the origins of the word “shay," which in the north seems to indicate either a “track leading to an area of common graz­ ing” (such as Clitheroe’s High Moor), or alternati­ vely it is the name given to the common grazings themselves. There are other “sliavs”


in the Kibble Valley — Wiswell Shay, Shay Lane, Longridge, and Shay Lane, Slaidburn, which is recorded on a map in the Public Record Office, (MR77S) dated 1591. Shay Lane in Slaidburn


associated with it. The position of these farms, at the top of a lane leading to the common moor graz­ ings, could suggest a link with the payment of a toll for animals crossing the moor. This wayleave or toll is s t i l l known in France as “pcage,” and like “cheminage” — the toll levied by the Norman lords in medieval times for the carrying of goods along roads belonging to them — may be comme­ morated in the “Page” names, like the ones attached to the Shays of Clitheroe and Slaidburn. The “Page” farm names,


only recorded relatively recently, possibly indicate where the toll used to he paid. As the origins of such toll collection places must lie in the period when the De Lacy family held both Blackburnsliire and Howland, the survival of such names surely demonstrates the strength of oral tradition in this area.


ERIC HICHAM, 22 Peel Park Avenue, Clithcrnc.


G IV E YO U R


V IEW S


MAY 1 thank Mr Waller^ for drawing to the atten-,,j tion of your readers the, , consultation paper, from„( the Department of the ’i Environment, on possible.;, further planning controls'/ over the temporary use of.;;


land. Like him, may I urge a


a l l t h o s e w h o are.q interested in the matter to,j respond individually to the,.;


DoE. The council lias long.,


been concerned at the-i problems caused, partial-.;, larly by temporary mar-s kets and car boot sales and ;i frustrated at its very., limited powers to control


the same. It has already-, made representations to;. the Government, the., Association of District , Councils and the local,! Member of Parliament. The council would like to.,


see the withdrawal of per-,, mitted development rights.* for such events and the,; introduction of a licensing,, system, similar to that in, f o r c e f o r p u b l i c ; ! entertainments. The council has, of’ ,


course, taken the oppor ­ tunity to further its case-, by responding to the pres-... ent consultation paper and,, hopes that others will do the same.


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C O U N . FLEMING,


Leader, Kibble Valley Council.


B 1 L L, Borough.


Extra stop |


A NUMBER of changes have been made to the schedules of the Ribhle Valley Mobile Library


Service. From next Monday, thef


schedules to Ribchester: will he revised to intro- 1 duce ail hour-long halt in’; Clitlieroe, at Low Moor. The mobile library will


call at Low Moor between <1-35 and 10-35 a.m. on alternate Mondays, start-; mg next week. The vehicle1 will now spend 30 minutes les s at Ribchester car- park.


r NEWS IN BRIEF


JEWELLERY valued in total at £1,335 was stolen from a house in Langshaw Drive, Clitheroe, between noon on Friday and *1 p.m. on Monday.


THE Clitheroe Oxfiim group is holding a massive hook fair on Saturday, at the United Reformed Church Hall, in Moor Lane. ’Pile fair is open from 10


a.m. to 3 p.m. Admission is 25p, and refreshments will be available.


A MOUNTAIN bike, valued at i ’GOO, was stolen from Castlegate, Clith­ eroe, at 3-15 p.m. on Mon­ day. The Marin Eldridge bicycle, which is postcoded BB72HP, has 21 gears, an 18in. frame and is black with pink rear forks and a black saddle.


THIEVES smashed a dis­ play window at a clothes shop in Clitheroe town c en tr e , then reached through and stole a fleeced


jacket, valued at £32.!)!)p, b e t w e e n 0 p . m . la st Wednesday and 7 a.m. on Thursday.


A FIRE brigade from Set­ tle used two hose reels to extinguish a fire which burnt out a Reliant Robin car on the Tosside to Slaidburn Road at 7 p.m. on Tuesday. Clitheroe police said the blaze was believed to have been an electrical fire.


POLICE are appealing for information about a blue Cavalier, with the regis­ tration number BRN 350Y, which failed to stop after an accident involving an unattended Maestro parked in New Market Street, Clitheroe, at 2 p.m. on Tuesday last week.


FORTY square yards of York paving stone, valued at £1 ,0 0 0 , was stolen from, a derelict farmhouse on the outskirts of Simon- stone, between 1 and 8 p.ni.on Monday. Police are appealing for information about a royal blue old-type transit panel van seen in the area at the time.


A PANASONIC radio­ cassette player and Can­ non c am e r a , v a lu ed together at £340, were stolen from a BMW saloon car in Bank Hall, Sawley, during Thursday night, after the off-side passen­ ger window was smashed.


THIEVES raided the Commercial Hotel, in Whalley Road, Clitheroe. during Sunday night, stealing £1,500 in cash from a safe and various machines, as well as, £500 worth of spirits, two oil p a in t in g s o f w i ld l ife scenes, valued at £80, and a Solitaire payphone.


AT Trinity Church Ladies Afternoon Fellowship’s


f ir s t m e e t in g o f the autumn session, the guest speaker was the Rev. J . Needham. Tea and cakes were served by the Lea hostesses.


A SILVER Ford Sierra, valued at £3,SOI), was sto­ len from Calderstones H o s p i ta l . W h a 11 e y , between 7-35 p.m. on Sun­ day and 7-30 a.m. on Mon­ day. The vehicle has the registration number F333 R FR .


AFTER removing a dou­ ble glazed window from a house in Lancaster Drive, Clitheroe, between 7 p.m. on Friday and G-15 p.m. on S a t u r d a y ,


t h i e v e s


searched the rooms but stole nothing.


SE V E N w in d s c r e e n wipers, a wing mirror and a rear bumper were stolen from cars at Greenacrc Garage, Greenacre Street, Clitheroe, between 5-30 p.m. on Saturday and 11- 30 a.m. on Sunday.


THIEVE S s to le four wheels, valued at £300,. from an Austin Metro left parked on the Clitheroe section of the A59 after the driver of the vehicle ran out of petrol. The offence took place during Thursday night.


A YOUNG Clitheroe boy, who fell off his bicycle in. Railway View, Clitheroe, on Sunday morning, was taken to Blackburn Royal Infirmary with cuts on the inside of his mouth and a suspected sprained ankle. Police said no vehicles were involved in the accident.


THIEVES forced a win­ dow on a caravan at Todber Caravan Park, Gisburn, between 1 1 p.m. on Monday and 10 a.m. on Tuesday, stealing a Pana- so n ic v id e o - c a s s e t t e recorder, as well as a Win. Hitachi portable colour TV and radio-cassette player, valued together at £300.


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CLITHEROE FC will be radio-cassette player, running- a supporters- valued at £500, was stolen coach to th e ir match from a Ford Escort out- against Newcastle Town s jde a house in Newton on Saturday.


bridge at 12 noon, the trip 1 5 a.m. on Tuesday, after costs £3 and anyone is wel- thieves broke the glass on come to go along.


the rear off-side window. i Leaving from Shaw- n p.m. on Monday and 8 - Street, Clitheroe, between


TWO Stihl petrol-driven eh a i n s a w s , v a lu e d together at £990, were ' stolen from a farm at Mit- ton between midnight on Sunday and 8-30 a.m. the following morning.


A PHILIPS stereo radio­ cassette player, valued at £1 0 0 , was stolen from a Fiat Panda car in a town centre car park between 8 - 30 p.m. on Sunday and G-


30 a.m. Monday.


THIEVES broke into a vehicle in Lowergate car park, Clitheroe, making off with £131.50 worth of property, including two Barclays Bank cheque books in the names of L. Nuttall and T. Ward, a cheque for £75, a black leather briefcase and a blue leather shoulderbag..


THIEVES stole a radio­ cassette player, valued at £20, from a Ford Fiesta parked in Slaidburn Road, Grindleton, between 11 p.m. last Wednesday and 8 a.m. on Thursday.


Fined £125 j


AFTER pleading guilty by le t t e r to a motoring offence, Clitheroe man Mark Ryan Walker was fined £125 by the town’s magistrates. Walker (20), of Withgill Farm, was also ordered to


pay £ 2 0 costs and had his licence endorsed with three penalty points. The court heard that,


A RADIO-CASSETTE; player, valued at £2 0 0 ,, was stolen from a Vaux-> hall Astra in a Clitheroq. town centre car park; between G p.m. on Monday' and 11-30 a.m. the'follow? ing day. '


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THIEVES broke a win-* (low at a garage in Main S t r e e t , Gisburn, and1 forced a door into the area where a safe is located,, hut left without stealing anything. The break-in occurred at 11-25 p.m. op Tuesday last week.


' C L ITH E R O E Civic-


Society is to hold its next meeting in the mutual room at Clitheroe Parish Hall at 7-30 p.m. on Mon­ day, October 5th. The speaker will be Mr Philip Bailey, the Ribble Valley Council’s d ir ec to r of development.


THIEVES forced open the cashbox in a telephone kiosk in King Street) Whalley, and stole £50 it) coins.


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us in g radar, a police officer recorded Walker’s speed travelling along Edisford Road, Clitheroe, at 51 m.p.h. • . ' ■. ;.


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