You’ve supported this festival many times. But some of your american colleagues, particularly the studios, are choosing not to launch their films at festivals. What’s your feeling about that? What would your message to those studios be? I hadn’t noticed that. You’re saying that there are fewer films from studios here? Well, I think, in fairness, you could make the argument that studios are making, and this has been going on for 25 or 30 years, this is some of the work that [Steven] Soderbergh and I were doing when we started doing ‘Out of Sight’ and films like that, that studios are doing films that less and less need a launch pad of a film festival. They’re not going to Cannes as much either. That’s just sort of the nature of the beast. So I think maybe that’s just the fallout from the kind of films they’re making. But that’s been going on since, literally, probably ‘Jaws’, when everything changed from making really small films. The studios used to make ‘Bonnie and Clyde’, and the studios used to make ‘All the President’s Men’. They don’t really make that many films like that.
You are 100% american. But you live in europe for a large part of the time. How do you see the states today? I’m always very optimistic about things. We’re at a moment in time that’s unfortunate. I think that’s an understatement. I do believe that we’re going to get through all of this. I’m old enough to have been through 1968 in the States when every city in the United States was set on fire, and we lost Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy in the same year. There was tonnes of violence. The capital was surrounded with tanks. We’ve had some other difficult times but this is one of them. There’s a great word, kakistocracy, which is a country run by the least qualified people. I think maybe we have a kakistocracy right now. But we’ll get through it. We will have an election in November that should be a check and balance. Then in 2028, with any luck, we’ll have some restoration into some
normalcy. And the idea that cruelty is the base, that being cruel and unkind is part of the fun of all of this. You see what the Secretary of Defence just tweeted out a picture about women in the military in Canada. You’re going, ‘What’s wrong with you? Where’s the sense of decency in all of this?’ And I’m ashamed of all of that. But we will come out better on the other side.
There is a lot of concern about the future of Hollywood with Paramount buying Warner Bros. What’s your take on the merger? plus, Paramount has come out against Mark Ruffalo who’s been critical of the merger. As someone who supports freedom of speech, what do you think? Well, I support Mark Ruffalo’s ability to speak freely. I think that that’s ridiculous. I believe in free speech even when I completely disagree with it. That’s important. In fact, it’s part of how a democracy works. There are going to be people tonight in the room that are going to disagree with most everything I say or stand for. Fair enough. That’s how it’s supposed to be. We’re supposed to argue these things out and come to a conclusion based on the information that we take in. So I will always support Mark Ruffalo’s ability to speak freely. I like him. He’s a good man. The merger is a complicated thing because I don’t know how it works out. There’s so many issues involved. There’s a great article that came out a couple of days ago about just the basics of how it works. And how much money it’s going to cost to make it work. I always worry whenever big companies are consolidating because it usually means a lot of people lose their jobs. That’s the truth. We’re going through a revolution in our industry. I think you all know it. And I hope you are aware, as we are, that AI is going to be a very big part of this industry. It’s going to hurt us in a lot of ways. If you’re a visual effects supervisor, you’re going to have trouble coming up because a lot of jobs are going to be taken away.And we’re kind of on our back foot on it. So we’re going to have to find ways to survive.
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