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leg, and I was the youngest man at that stage to win the British Open at 23.


I did it with that old crap


equipment: a ball that goes 50 yards less than now, a wooden head, no grooves in the club to speak of, no machines to rake the traps, no machines to cut the fairways short, and in a 30-mile- an-hour wind. I shot 284, which was only 2 shots worse than Phil Mickelson this year. •••


If you could have any shot over again in your career, what would it be? In 1962, I was two shots ahead of Arnold Palmer with three holes to go in the Masters, and I had a chance to be the first man to win the Masters twice in a row. On the 16th hole, I hit first to about 12 feet, and Palmer hit it 60 feet from the hole, up in the right-hand corner. The flag was down on the left, and you could stand there for a year and never hole it. The odds of you two-putting—I don’t know if anyone did that all tournament. And Palmer holed it. Hit the flag at a hundred miles an hour. And then I missed my putt. The next hole, he hooked it into the Eisenhower tree, knocked a 5-iron onto the green about 25 feet from the hole, and made that. And then in the playoff,


I was three shots ahead after nine holes, and he came to the 10th hole and hit a terrible shot on the right hand corner of the green, and holed it across the green. He came back in 31 to beat me. If I had one shot over, it would be that putt at No. 16. ••• You are one of the forefa- thers of fitness in golf. What inspired you to take fitness so seriously? Being a small man, my brother, when he went to war, he stood there—I can see him in his khaki uniform— and he said to me, “What do you want to do?” I was 9 years of age. I said,


“I want to be a professional sportsman.” He said, “You bet-


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ter toughen yourself up,” and he bought me some weights. My brother said, “Promise me you will exercise for the rest of your life.” I have adhered to that,


even to this day. I still do 1,200 crunches—I put a hundred pound weight on my chest—I watch my diet carefully—I am 75% vegetarian. Your health is the most important thing in the world. Probably about one in 30,000 people exercise and diet, and this is the biggest worry for me. I’ve got 15 American


grandchildren, and do I lecture them. My daughter fortunately is trying to bring them up properly. In the United States—


the greatest country in the world—the obesity is getting like a tsunami. Your health care systems haven’t got a chance to work. You will be a land of sick people—everybody being obese. Twenty-seven percent of the youth are obese—55% of the grown-ups, and it is increasing, not decreasing. Everybody is on pills, so


how are you going to be able to pay for it? We have got to start educating people in schools. Health care is selfcare. We have got to start getting people to exercise in schools—not to take exercise out but to increase it and teach children. There is not a school in the United States that teaches children how to eat properly. I don’t know where we are going. ••• Was that part of your motivation to do the ESPN body issue? Exactly. When they asked me to do that, I was very reluctant to do it. I thought it was one of these crazy things—but they do it so discreetly. It was such an honor that they would ask me and at nearly 80 years of age to be able to pick up that ball and stand in that pose. We had more tweets, more


emails, more telephone calls. I had an email from a guy way back in Idaho—somewhere in


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