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IT is unfortunate that Mr Southworth should include in his letter to you last week the offen­ sive phrase that the Ramblers’ Association should grow up. In commenting on the points he raises I shall try to avoid any similar lapse myself.


That superb bird, the Red


Grouse, is admired by many people, most of whom do not wish to shoot it.


I d o n ’ t know what


evidence Mr Southworth has to support his claim that a large section of one Lanca­ shire grouse moor scarcely ever produces a brood of young because of the number of footpaths which cross it, and that it is the disturbance caused by the public which is responsible.


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any large Lancashire grouse moor with a significant number of paths crossing it — certainly not in Bowland. The Duke of Devonshire is


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ALONG with others who have written letters of objection to the closure of the Mearley Brook footpath, I and my family wish to be included. This is the second time I


have written about the path, the first was 20 years ago when I objected to the then threatened blocking of the path which eventually came about. For the 17 years our family lived at Up Brooks that footpath was used and enjoyed by us and by many others as a peace­ ful, charming short cut into and out of town. I never saw any legal


notice of permission to close the path and from what I have heard recently there seems not to be any legal permission given now for the closure of the whole length of it. One wonders, therefore, who gave permis­ sion for the locked gates at each end of this path? Unless blocked, as now,


footpaths remain for the convenience and pleasure of all, not least for the children who, for generations, have delighted in playing along­ side the brook. Let us hope that the foot­


path will once more be opened up for the pleasure and convenience of all. After all, it is a public footpath, isn’t it? ELIZABETH GREENWOOD, Rosadene, Radeclyffe Street, Clitheroe.


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Cost of paths is small <jdetterd to the ^ d itc


on record as stating that since the public access was granted on his estates the grouse crop has actually increased. Mr Southworth concedes


that to protect the grouse it is necessary to control the activities of predatory vermin. No doubt this is correct, but does it conflict with his concern for other birds, mammals and insects who inhabit the moors. Is it not arguable that to


kill off the foxes and the vermin and to keep the heather in good condition for the grouse alone is a serious alteration in the natural environment of the moors? Those whose sport is


grouse shooting must expect to pay fo r it. Skilled gamekeepers have to be employed to keep the moors in suitable condition and this is expensive.


I also understand that


quite a number of local people are kept in employ­ ment because of the sport, which further increases the cost to the shooting men. In contrast, the cost of


maintaining a footpath across an open moor is small indeed, and to imply that a walker should have to pay to walk on the hills would be hard to justify, particularly on those hills owned by the NWWA which has a statut­ ory duty to provide access for the public. Clearly the NWWA has a


difficult task to perform in reconciling the conflicting interests which this corres­ pondence has revealed. My first letter was concerned with pointing out that Mr J. Trevelyan, a national officer of the RA had been badly misquoted in another news­ paper.


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mainly concerned with Boulsworth Hill, south of Colne, where the NWWA


. has already conceeded that a footpath will be possible .along the ridge, but insist on


. certain restrictions. which are not acceptable to the RA, and would set a national precedent for future similar' negotiations. Finally may I point out,


much to our regret, that most of the Ramblers’ have already grown up. Many of us are at least in middle life and some of our most active members are in their sixties and,beyond. If the shooting interests


succeed in keeping the grouse moors entirely to themselves for just a few days’ shooting each year, then I don’t think that it will be the RA who will be show­ ing a lack of consideration for other people’s interests, and avoidance of conflict with them.


FRANK PARROTT, C h a irm an , C l ith e ro e group, Ramblers’ Association


Call public meeting -on town hall plan-


A WAVE of interest about the controversial issue of the Ribble Valley Council’s prop­ osed town hall is slowly gathering water.


Over the last few weeks


we have had many dissent­ ing arguments, including the objections of the Mayor of Clitheroe and a protest to th e counci l from the Chamber of Trade. It is “irresponsible,” and


although this may seem severe, it is the only word applicable to the council’s decision to spend nearly three quarters of a million pounds of ratepayers’ money on' brand new premises for its operations. Criticisms have been


launched on almost every aspect of the proposals. Firstly, while the council admittedly needs more office space, does this need justify a completely new building at such high cost. Secondly, does the need


for so many new offices take p re ced en t ov e r other pressing requirements in the community? Thirdly, is the proposed


site the best choice? F o u r th ly , w i l l the


expenses definitely have a ceiling of £650,000 or will “unexpected rises in costs” and “necessary extras” be added to the bill. And when the building is


finished, will the spending spree then end, or will our mentors perhaps find it necessary to match new furniture to the decor — a story that rings a notorious bell! To dwell a little on my important second and third points, it is not difficult to find other deserving cases for capital expenditure. The library is an example


with its unbelievably small reference section. But perhaps one of the


most lacking facilities is car parking. As Mrs J. Brown, o f Waddington Road, Clitheroe, noted this is important for the whole town and as “Realist” said, vital for traders. Yet it is almost non-existent. The council, I have been told, wishes to use up half of the 80 spaces in our largest car park for its site. Coun. Bill Fleming tells us


that the plans would provide increased parking for Satur­ day shopers — but what about the other five working days (especially market


days) when parking will be severely decreased?


As far as I can tell, in fact,


the net result of the council’s plans, despite the work currently being done in Lowergate, will be reduced parking in the centre of town!


Finally, it is worth noting


that the council has no real, absolute authority to spend such a large sum in this way without properly consulting the public. It was elected to serve the interests of the community, but in that elec­ tion, there was no mention of such a scheme as this, the community value of which is highly questionable. The council, existing as it


does in 20th century Britain, a Britain whose constitution rests heavily on precedence, is obliged to sincerely seek the veiws of its electorate. Coun. Fleming somewhat naively stated "the electors will still remember the


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scheme when the next elec­ tions come around." Unfor­ tunately, I don’t forsee the memories as being very agreeable.


Therefore, I join many


others in requesting of the council to hold a public meet­ ing (as there was on the swimming baths question) and, furthermore, suggest that full plans be displayed readily in some such public place as the library, or even be published in this news­ paper, so that we may all be satisfield of the need to spend £650,000 or more. As the council is serving


our interests it has nothing to’ fear in acceding to this request, and will enjoy the opportunity to show us that our objections are ground­ less. I eagerly await an announcement of the time and place of such a meeting.


ROBERT J. SHEPHERD, 7 Park Avenue, Clitheroe


In a c c u r a te p ic tu r e ’


WE were interested to see the letter you published on March 2nd from Stephen Wood about the Ribble Valley Trades Council withdrawing its account


from Barclays because of the bank’s involvement with South Africa.


We think that you would


wish to know that certain information contained in his letter is incorrect. Firstly, his assertion that


we pay Black Africans a small percentage of the wage given to white workers for the same job is untrue. The principle of “equal pay for equal work” has been applied by the bank for many years and without e x ce p t ion . All fringe benefits available to white clerical and non-clerical staff are similarly available to all black, coloured and Asian staff, all jobs are open to all races. Secondly, he says in his


last paragraph “Is it not frightening that any black workmates you may have, would not even be allowed to associate with you, let alone j oin, trade unions, if we lived in South Africa?” This statement is also incorrect. The bank’s policy has been, and continues to be, the encouragement of active participation in trade union


W. SoutPuxwntfi £r Son


affairs by all members of the staff of all races. The bank has formally


recognised the South Afri­ can Bank Employees’ Union as the trade union for the black staff. AH negotiations re g a rd in g matters of employment are conducted


jointly by the bank and the three unions representing white, coloured and black staff. On the point about segre­


gation, the bank’s training centres, luncheon clubs, canteens and sport are fully integrated and there is no segregation at work level. Equal working conditions


are available throughout. You may no doubt feel that your readers should know the facts as statements made in Mr Wood’s letter, and published by you, give a very inaccurate picture of the bank’s attitude towards the staff in South Africa, of all races.


M. J. CLINCH Manager (International), Barclays


TRAFFIC CENSUS TOOK IN MANY FACTORS


YOUR correspondent “Road User” criticises the traffic survey conducted in the area of Oakhill, Wiswell Lane, Whalley, suggesting that it was an inadequate basis on which to make a recommenda­ tion to the Committee.


The letter states that the


census had been confined to traffic on Wiswell Lane only. Presumably “Road User”


was working from the abbreviated coverage in your paper on February 23rd, and not from the report presented to the Planning and Transportation Committee. The Committee received a


report running'to four pages on the assessment of prob­ able t r a f f i c problems associated with the school. This assessment was based on a survey in the morning and afternoon peak periods on three seperate days which took account of not only traffic travelling in both directions on Wiswell Lane but also the traffic travelling on the Whalley Easterly By-pass and the Clitheroe Road out of Whalley. It further took account of


all turning movements into and out of Wiswell Lane at either end. The assessment highlighted the potential hazards caused by turning traffic, both on Clitheroe Road and the faster Whalley Easterly by-pass. In addition, it assessed


the additional traffic, likely to be generated by the


school and the implications of that traffic on the existing situation. The letter compares this


case to other applications that are refused on the grounds of traffic, road safety and other highway grounds on single houses etc. In these cases refusals are as a result of recommen­ dations from the County Surveyor and not the Plan­ ning Department. In the Oakhill case the


County Surveyor had no objections to the proposal and the additional detailed information on the traffic movements in this area was prepared in an effort to ad vise and assist the


Bigger school


needed AFTER reading the article about why Trutex chief Mr Roger Wood won’t move house, I feel I must put forward the views of a parent who has been resi­ dent in the area for a number of years. My daughter took the 11-


plus last year and did not attain a place at the gram­ mar school. We accepted this until we were told that if she had been a boy there would have been a place for her at the boys’ grammar school. She now attends Bowland


County Secondary School and is very happy there along with the other girls in her class, who, had they been of the opposite sex, would now be having a grammar school education. I have no intention of


criticising the Bowland Secondary School but why should Mr Wood’s daughter have the first possible vacancy when there are other girls with possibily as many qualifications not being given a similar chance. Surely it is time the local


authorities awoke and real­ ised the Girls’ Grammar School is just not large enough to cope with the number of girls with gram­ mar school ability in this area. CONCERNED


members of the Ribble Valley Borough Council in making their decision. I should be most happy


to make the detailed infor­ mation available to “Road User” should he. or she care to call at my office;


CHARLES WILSON, Planning Department, Ribble Valley Borough Council


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Dogs: An amicable solution possible


HAVING read “Dog owner hater’s* letter in last week’s edition, one must now draw the conclusion of a shift in direction. His first letter, which was a


definite call for the extermi­ nation of all dogs showed a lack of consideration for the feelings of his fellow man. Now, in this second letter


he a p p e a r s to have graduated to the point w h e r e he ap parent ly appears to prefer a slanging match, rather than have a rational argument with those whose views differ from his own. These views are, in today’s society, every bit as valid. Mostly they only claimed


to differ; he appears to claim that he is completely right. Not only that — he


implies that his opponents are either inconsiderate or wafflers or down right idiots. How self-opinionated can you get? Even our town council­


lors, who he hopes will take note, are referred to as incompetents. If a census was to be taken of dog lover owners, dog lovers, those who don’t approve of dogs and dog haters, I feel that the category into which he would slot would not even register. No-one should confuse


those who have a genuine grievance about the undis­ puted problem (dog exretion in our streets) with the dog haters of this world, for it is through them the dog haters vent their hate. His well tired reason for


“canine genocide” has been spouted since the days when we ourselves managed to r e fra in from dumping human sewage in the streets (as was once the case). The very fact that we


managed to overcome our own problem and still survive only serves to indi­ cate that there is an answer to the problem, which genuine and level-headed citizens (and from ■ these I e x c lu d e “ Dog Owner Hater”) will one day resolve. That is, of course, provid­


ing that “Dog owner hater’s” opinions are proved wrong. If enough of us can be found, endowed with the average amount of “grey matter,” then I for one am convinced that an agreeable solution to the majority will eventually be arrived at amicably.


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