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WO numy letters, particularly long ones, have been received about the controversial articles Written by Elaine, that we have no chance what­


soever of publishing them all. After this week it is not our intention to


Publish any more long letters, unless we think they have particular significance; so the Editor Would he obliged if correspondents in future would limit their letters to 150 words—and even shorter ones than that would he preferred and have greater chance of publication. All sorts of people have enquired at the ofticc,


or from members of the staff, if they can meet Elaine to talk to her about her views, and some have asked for her telephone number. Elaine’s articles will still continue to be pub­


lished in the Advertiser and Times but publicity will also be given to her critics or supporters.


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orthodox some


Will you lit be more allraclctl if the church resorts lo gimmicks such as the introduction of beat music?


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This week Elaine contributes her frank views on the subjec . again we venture to claim she will set you thinking.


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STRAINS OF BEAT MUSIC THROUGH CHURCH WINDOWS


•v£AY I make a brilliant suggestion to fill some of those empty churches . Whj not star! offc ing trading stamps to attract more housewives .


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Are you shocked at the idea ? Then why offer Beatle services to attract youth . T have shouted for the Beatles, but I have not screamed. I have bought a few of thci records, but I have not sent them jelly babies or cried when they left this country for France


and America. In short I like the Beatles, but I do not worship them, as


apparently do many many teenagers at home and abroad. Perhaps worship may sound a


strong word to you, but have you ever been caught up in a seething mass of screaming, sobbing, clutch­ ing girls? They cry, they


repeat the four names, they gladly suffer any bodily injury to get one step nearer to the four boys who arc surely Gods to them,


As this country becomes more a n d m o r e commercialised


Some, although they do not rea­ lise it are worshipping power, money, television, and now we find the latest addition—pop groups and in particular the


people are' turning from reli­ gion and Christianity and are setting up other Gods.


The religion of pop singer wor­ ship and the religion of wor­ shipping God do not seem to have much in common, and do not mix. Just think for example of falling down and praying at a Twist’n’Shake Ball, or of turning on a transistor in the middle of a hymn in church.


Beatles.


Yet funnily, or ironically enough this mixture of God and the pops is happening all over the country, and even In our own locality. Pop music Is creeping Into ohurohes, perhaps unnotic­ ed in some parts, and given Immense publicity In others: but nevertheless It is still


creeping in. They think that by doing this


Ministers who have guitars in­ stead of organs in their churches, and twitching boys instead of straight choirs, are not being very far sighted.


they arc bringing young folk who are interested in God to church. Yet the laugh is on them for no matter how much work they put into preparing a pop service, the fact remains that once the teenagers arc in church they are not interested in God, but only in listening to their singers.


Is it not evident when a morning


At a recent beat service in Black- burn girls said, “ That pop group would get me into church any day,” and “When are you going to get the


service is practically devoid of teenagers, and an evening beat service, is packed with them why they are coming?


Beatles?"


The fact is, for one thing a beat service is unusual, and so draws the crowds. Yet if they were staged at churches every week the novelty would soon wear off. and I think the teen­ agers would distrust the par­


I t is a shame that world com­ mercialisation should have to creep into religion. I t is a shame that young people should have to be drawn to church by a pop group, in the same way that a housewife is drawn to buy a tin of fruit by its gaily coloured wrapping. Which incidentally does not say much for the contents if there is such a need for adver­


in, that is beat. tising.


The most important fact is this, that once tho novelty of boat church had worn off, tho youngsters would never go


back. Something that did not attract them for long In their youth would hardly attract them afterwards.


But if they were left alone, there is a greater possibility that thev would return. Reli­ gion is out of fashion for teen­ agers. and the ministers ought to accept this. Let them mature, and begin to fear death as they grow older, and begin to get an interest in the inevitable mothers unions and mens clubs and the like,- and then and only then, will they begin to drift


back.


Singing the same mournful hymns week after week, the same set responses to the vicar, the same set time to kneel, the same set type of sermon (and what teenager likes to be lec­ tured?!, in fact the system is boring.


teenagers do not like the set pattern of services.


sons for trying to put some­ thing they were not interested in over to them through a medium they were interested


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Her previous articles have been widely quoted and, we admit, Elaine may be right or wrong, but she speaks with the courage of companions. On that account wc suggest her views are of consioc


critics


byterian and one of the finest British theologians of this cen­ tury. said that to say “ Jesus was God’ was heresy. That means not even orthodox Christian teaching.


j)ONALD BAILLIE. who was ' an orthodox Scottish Pres­


Perhaps Elaine is more ortho­


dox than some of her critics! Certainly there is no place in the New Testament where Jesus is called God, and the title “son of God” came from the Old Testament where It was used first el all for tho nation of Israol and then for those who repre­ sented Israel boforc God as priests.


certainly docs not mean God in biblical thought either. Jesus call­ ed himself " the son of man," an­ other Old Testament title. Elaine is in Step with many


The title Christ, or Messiah,


Attack on critics


r FIND the attitude towards Elaine of the phalanx of worthy ministers who wrote in


vour last issue quite nauseating. With all the intolerance of the orthodox, they treat her as a child who has erred and strayed from the straight and narrow-


path. It is easy enough to see how


religion first rose to the fearful incomprehending minds of our skin-clad ancestors as they looked out of their caves on a world of natural disasters.


hostile storm, the devastating earthquake, or the famine that destroyed their food. What more obvious than to ascribe these terrible phenomena to “divine" causes?


They could not explain the


" orthodox ” Christian' thinkers when she says that Christ "MUST NOT” be the “ Son of God," if wc use that title, quite tmbiblically, to mean that he WAS God. In fact many Chris­ tians believe that Jesus made God known and did God’s will because he did not claim to BE God. but did claim the BRING God through his own self-efface­ ment and self- sacrifice. Even the so-called “ spiritual ” Gospel of John fits this interpretation. All


Illuminating Do you call your


What ministers should concen­ trate on is why the teenagers , , • do not want to come da-etoiissSl-. CsktTTJlovvs ■’ This is an easy question—th*


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lecture “ Girl in the iflimlows because sic can see the light? Philistine ”


The classic example is in tire Lord's Prayer. This is drumm­ ed into our heads as children, and by the time we are adults we know it so well that we lose contact with its meaning.


this is nore clearly expressed in "Honed, to God ” by the Bishop of Wiolwich. a leading New Tpstairent scholar, who really believe; that " I t belongs to the offices of a bishop in the Church to be a guardian and defender


of its doctrine." A litter is not a satisfactory


Some- ministers now in their own shortsighted way are do­ ing, exactly the opposite of what the man they believe to be the son of God taught them. Christ drove the commercial-


ists from the Temple of Jesu- salem. . .with their mo n e y changing, b u y i n g , selling, cheating, they were detracting the minds of the people from


Do the ministers of today think that they can do the same thing and introduce more forces to detract the mind from God, in His own house—blunt­


God. ly POP STARS. 'The right beat for the church?


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medton for discussing so large a subject (it seems too cut and dried and too dogmatic, and it is to) easily mis-understood) but it should be made clear- that there are many Christians who uphold Christ as Lord, in whom they see and know God, who do not say, “ Jesus was God.' In thus they are only being true to the New Testament, however literally we take those docu menU! This sort of thinking, far from


kill not because any God ordains it so on tablets of stone, but because it is socially necessary. This is also why in time of war. w h e n the community is threatened with destruction, it becomes by the same token “right" to kill the enemy. How­ ever. perhaps I have said enough at least to provide food for thought.


I t is "wrong" to s t e a l or "PRO-ELAINE." Dedicated - Y y in ‘no A FTER


venture to ask whether or not she believes in a personal God. or for that matter any kind of deity at all?


_____ r e a d i n g two of Elaine's articles T would


the existence of the human per­ sonality, or in other words the soul, I would doubt it very much. I t may be that Elaine does not know* . herself, or no doubt she has not given! this all important principle m u c h


From the view she holds on


thought. I think then that she should


clear this mist which has In my mind shrouded both of her articles and commit herself. For the existence of the s o u l , heaven, hell, and miracles, are possible and highly probable if God exists. What then if God does not exist as far as Elaine is concerned?; well then these minor difficulties of hers have been solved at a single blow. Any atheist or agnostic holds the same and if Elaine is either of these two types, even uncon­ sciously, it's not surprising she believes what she claims.


an answer b e f o r e turning towards things of less impor­ tance for it would be pointless going deep into the minor dogmas if the very principle these minor dogmas rest on are not accepted, and besides I do not wish to build on assumed foundations for this would be


This problem then demands


undermining faith, has made me more and more sure that Jesus embodies all the fullness of the Gospel. He is not God far remov­ ed, but the one who brings the meaning of God right into the human situation, as man. This is his glory and his true divinity!


NATURE M IRA CLES


Mark's Gospel. Jesus at one point expressly refuses to perform such "signs” even if he could. Elaine dlsmissess them too lightly as fairy tales. She ought to do


As for the nature miracles: in ITY E ,S” F o r / bW & t O c cu p ier s . PAUL


i writers were not ignorant tribes­ men, and of course, the Old Testament prophets were highly cultured and produced some of the finest poetry in the world, not to mention the brilliant minded Paul in the New Testa­ ment. I t is just that the Bible comes from a completely differ­ ent thought-world to the twen­ tieth century industrial society. To .say that much of the Bible


some home-work to see what meaning there is in the telling of the stories. Her own explana­ tions are really “ old hat.” The


a supreme being, first cause, or whatever name one wishes to give to the Father is the very centre and life of Christian belief, for even Christ himself said He proceeds front the Father and returns to the Father who sent Him, and it Elaine denies these principles no wonder she is such a doubting Thomas. It would then be of little use talking to a young lady about the soul or miracles if she disbelieves in the God that created her and them. So I would ask her kindly again to commit herself then I would have some idea where to start in the defence of which to me is of more value than life itself and to which mine is dedi­ cated—namely my belief in God and his son Our Lord. Yours,


foolish. The belief in the existence of


etc. One coward amongst 550,000,000 in the R.c: Church alone.


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is mythical is not to deny its real message; nor is this a case of youth versus age. because there are theologians in their eighties now, who have spent a life-time “ demythologising ’ the New Testament. That means asking what the writers were trying to say to tlieir own gener­ ation, and translating in into the language and thought forms of today. They have not been entirely successful but tile quest still goes on. In her own less adequate way. Elaine is attempt­ ing to do tile same. Is it her own fault if she does not know that it has already been done. Who has ever told her? How many ministers or church people make the effort to keep abreas- of Christian thinking hi this


generation?


learn to speak to Elaine, and the millions like her. In her own


Wc, in the Church, really must , .


language. If we do we many who are prepared to stana with us. unconditionally acclaim­ ing Christ as Lord, through whose self-giving Love and free­ dom we have the meaning of uoa


and life. Rev. ALAN GAUNT Congregational • Church.


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