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What hidden pleasures do you have that people may be surprised to know about? Something that I do love is going back home and being active with my brothers and my dad and going out and playing football or playing basketball. I feel like people see me doing more glamorous things on stage, wearing bedazzled clothes and being kind of over-the-top when it comes to glam, but I actually really like go to the farm and wash my horses. It seems like something that’s a chore but because I’m out in the city so much, going to these places and actually being able to get dirty and be on my farm the way that I grew up makes me super happy.


What does ‘pleasure has more than one layer’ mean to you? There have been times in my life where I feel that I can be very contradictory to myself. One thing that I feel today can be really opposite from what I’m going to feel tomorrow. And accepting that and not judging myself for it, not judging myself for feeling almost like two separate individuals or however many identities that is and loving each part of myself for who it really is. Sometimes I’ll go on stage and I’ve done it a million times and it feels that way and sometimes it feels as terrifying as the first time.


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So how are you Miley? I’m doing great.


Tell us what being true to pleasure means to you? Being true to pleasure for me is feeling fully fulfilled at the end of the day, knowing that you tried something that scared you, that you conquered it. Maybe you failed but by trying you’ve succeeded because you didn’t just live in that fear, you looked at it and you assessed it and you did your best.


How do different layers come into play in your music? By being experimental in my lifestyle, in my art, in my musical choices or whether it’s working on different films, I think I represent being layered as an individual. I think by having that fearlessness when it comes to trying something new, so whether that’s kind of honouring country music, which is obviously a big part of my childhood and growing up, but then doing pop music that I also adore into celebrating rock’n’roll.


What are your thoughts on not compromising on things that bring you pleasure? I think it’s important to not compromise when it comes to things that bring you pleasure because I think it’s such an individual choice and experience and I think no-one really ever knows what feels right except for you. I think success is measured in so many different ways and I think fulfilment and dignity and respect and honour for what you’re doing, to me that equates success.


What have you been taking pleasure in recently? Something that’s making me feel really fulfilled and giving me a lot of pleasure right now is making music and being in the studio and that writing process, because it’s just very intimate and personal and it’s also very therapeutic in life.


Why did you want to work with Magnum on this campaign? Working with Magnum was super attractive to me because I love any time that there is a brand that is encouraging authenticity. That aligns with my own brand, which is supporting people to be who they really are and they’re not trying to change me to fit a brand but instead working together and really taking that word collaboration and both of us bringing something to the table. I think what I would hope is that I can bring to Magnum a lot of light and personality.


How do you embrace all your different sides? The way that I embrace all the different sides of myself and my pleasures is that I am not afraid of failure because I think by having these layers a lot of the time, it encourages you to be experimental because you aren’t just one thing. And so there’s so much that I want to do in my life, there’s so many sounds that inspire me, there’s so many styles of art that I love, whether it’s art fashion, architecture, anything that is creative, I can usually find something that I like about something, whether it’s art or whether it’s music or something I can appreciate. And anything that’s been made by another person or by nature itself.


What’s your advice to anyone who feels they can’t explain their true pleasure? My advice would be to write it down. Obviously as a songwriter I think when you write things down on paper you give life to it, you can see it, you can visualise it. You can also ask yourself, ‘Is this my truth?’ You can question it. I love writing down a question and then writing my answer and then I can scratch out my answer and go, ‘No, that’s not quite it.’ I like to be able to articulate because emotions are so overpowering sometimes and it’s really easy to get lost in our emotions and going, ‘This is how I feel, I’m going to feel this way forever.’ You know, you can feel very doomed. But then when you write it out and you question it, and you answer that question, I think you give yourself power again because there’s an understanding. And then you can always go back and look at that paper again. Any time you have that self-doubt or others’ opinions start to cloud what you really want, you can go back to that paper. You have some sort of foundation. I think visualisation is really powerful.


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