like it’s a business deal. Marriage is a business deal. Everything is business, everything on?” She said “I just need you to come down here and put this blanket on me.” And
is commerce. It’s an external accumulation thing again. Real relationships are about the when she said that, I knew something was wrong. That little fiery fire cracker needs
recognition of divinity in each other. We don’t even look for it. We might go to school me to put a blanket on her. Something was wrong. So I went there and checked on her
for 12, 15, 18 years and we might be skilled like an insect. “I’m a doctor, I specialize and it was a bad situation, a very bad situation. She didn’t live another three weeks
in…. “ The insect world is about specialists “I’m a drone”.. .I’m a this, I’m a that. The after that. The whole poem outlines this. So when I wrote the rebirth of seeds, a lot
education system does not teach us to be fully integrated and self aware human beings. of stuff was being pushed out and worked out through the rebirth of seeds. A lot of
So what happens is we wind up crashing into each other in relationships, which I call a my frustration and anger.
“reflective environment”. It is a school, a classroom. And you get into this classroom
and all of your flaws are heightened and reflected back at you. So whether you want
What are your long term goals?
to learn that lesson or not you learn it through relationships. So why not be more self
International billionaire philanthropist. Free world citizen. Eternal life student. YOU
objective, more self aware? Why not be more accountable. Why not use “I know”
KNOW. On top of the greatest radio show ever. That is what I want. I am going to
less and “maybe” more. That is the ultimate goal that I am trying to push to people.
fulfill my authoring. I am writing my second book. And TV personality. So what we
What are some of the positive influences that you keep in your life, have around you?
are doing now is trying to transition the radio show to TV.
Psychologically, I love J Krishnamurti. A lot of people are not really familiar with
Do you have any last words for our readers?
him. He is a world renowned philosopher that was raised by the theosophical society
Stay in touch with me. Stay focused. I’m pushing the envelope and I like dialogue. I
to be Jesus or a reincarnation of a Christ type figure then when he became of age and
like people to reach out, connect. Let’s talk, let’s get into it. I like the conversation.
he went through a maturation he renounced all of it; And told them to kick rocks and
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when he did that he became more powerful and even more of his followers from the
theosophical society was crushed. I mean they started secret societies after this guy!
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How did you get hip to J. Krishnamurti?
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I’ve always been an avid reader and researcher of spirituality and I was studying a
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Hindu guru (an Indian) by the name of [Sai Baba] everybody buys his incense, but I
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was studying this guy and I found a book written by a catholic priest about [Sai Baba].
I think the book was called A Catholic Priest meets Sai Baba. The priest gets kicked
out of the mother church. Catholicism, right. He’s kicked out of the Vatican I guess
and because he positioned that maybe Sai Baba was the reincarnation, the return of
something, they reacted like “are you kidding me? Get out of here.” He posed the
question does the reincarnation of Jesus or god or whatever we think is suppose to
come back does it have to be Caucasian, European, and Italian, catholic Christian does
it have to, couldn’t it be a little man in India somewhere and he got booted for that
and I was reading his book and his journey and he was talking about all these people
and he spoke highly of J. Krishnamurti and when I studied J. Krishnamurti I find that
so many people today are carbon copy of what he was the first at doing. Bruce Lee
studied J. Krishnamurti and formed Jeet Kune Do off of his philosophy. Which Jeet
Kune Do at its time was considered the most advanced form of martial arts in the world.
What do you keep as part of your fitness routine?
Basketball is my religion. I just turned 38, let’s see, not even a whole month ago the
23rd of May. And I just can’t see myself not playing so that’s pretty much what I do. I
just hired a personal trainer so now we’re working out, muscle training, calisthenics,
and cardio.
Other than basketball, how do you keep and maintain your healthy positive outlook
on life? Other than your readings and teachings what other else do you do that are
outlets for you just to keep yourself together and centered and focused?
Kids will do that (laugh). My children do that. They keep me focused because I use a
lot of my weaknesses as a motivational tool when teaching my oldest son. I tell him
watch me as intently as you can. When I make a mistake capture that and say this
is a blueprint for what not to do. That is a positive outlook to see my sons and my
daughter and see them grow and maturate the breakout, you blossom the flower and
their doing that and that’s a great source of peace and happiness. My oldest is 12, my
daughter is 9 and my youngest is 7.
Tell us about your book, “The Rebirth of Seeds.”
I finished it in 2005. Kool Moe Dee and I have been doing relationship roundtables
around the country for years. He sits on one end and I sit on the other end and we
would just tag team back and forth and just make very interesting conversation. So
Moe once told me, “Zo, you should write a book. You have a lot of interesting things to
say. The book will lead to financial independence.” And of course its America so guess
what happens, If Zo writes a book on relationships, Zo is an expert on relationships
because he wrote a book. Commerce precedes everything. It made money; it sold; so
he must know what he is talking about. So Moe is like “write the book”. I am a right-
brained kind of person. So I wrote a book that wasn’t even about that. It was about
some internal stuff, feelings. So I started writing the book. The book was poetry. It
was kind of cathartic because there was a poem called “Big Mama Speaks Without
Words” and it reenacted the last three weeks of my great grandmother’s life. Where
I was sitting in my bookstore in Alta Dena and I just heard her call me. You know I
called her and she was like “I’m alright baby, I’m good.” I asked her “What’s going
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