Clltheroe Advertiser and. Times, November 12,1971 3 More views on tourist issue our assets MR. MUSSON’S reply, or


should I say his failure to reply, to my letter written under the pseudonym “Des- pised Visionary” left me only believing that of admis-


pond. I regret this. The


issues involved . are import­ ant ones to the" people of Clitheroe and district. Public debate is a good thing. (Had I appended my real name it would have meant


little to


reply of bis response. “Shouldn’t rye demand accurate cost­ ings . .? “Is not this . pros­ pect expected to show a fair margin of profit . . .” “No successful businessman would dream of going ahead with ex­ pansion with nothing more than a few imaginative drawings to show his shareholders”. “Sauna baths indeed, what next?’ . He


and one with shares and stocks in “business” in addition to active participaton n it.


RIGHT


indeed? They are an "in” busi­ ness at the moment. I don’t use them myself but a lot of shrewd judges arc investing capital in them. But all die above is not really


columns of the local press. And why not sauna baths


part of my original letter. I set out to argue principally that Clitheroe needs the money of visitors.


POORER


The case for and against the Roefield development and for and against “tourism” has wrongfully b ee n mixed— although they arc in a way con­ nected.


would bo in a poor way with­ out “visitors”. The shopping facilities it enjoys for instance, would be poorer without them. Jt could not possibly make its new swimming baths profitable from its own population. It would I believe even lose (fol­ lowing its loss of shops) its own local weekly newspaper.


out to criticise constructively my argument. I believe Clitheroe as a town


still give them credit for trying. The “knockers” never achieve much, the apathetic even less. My original letter was certainly not ’grossly, unfair”. He is entitled to his view. So, too, am I although, unfortunately I must still remain, unrepentant-


ANONYMOUS.


Worse than in the


Midlands


FOR the past few years my family and I lived in. the West'' Midlands where the position as' far as numbers of children in primary classes were concerned


to the north early, this. year it seemed an ideal situation as far as my children were concerned, moving to a rural district where children would have room to breath and grow. Only to find, however, that the situation was worse than the one.we,had left. Parents in the Edisford area, can sleep happily in • their1'' beds knowing that their children have a much poorer deal than.the overcrowded industrial centres.


JACK BROUGHTON,


32 Fairfield Drive, Edisford-Park, CUtberoc.


. -r : ■


school in the Midlands where , MAY I add a brief but, I think, my children attended informed pertinent: comment on the dis- mc one day. in distress, that be­ cause of the influx of 60,000 immingrants into the Midlands all primary school classes would have to be increased, and the size of her own particular clas­ ses would be increased to 40. ' ' When I was-transferred back


was considered a national prob­ lem, and reports were both in the national papers and on tele­ vision. The headmistress of the


’■ ■ _ . .


when we'have sold something, we cannot have it any more! With regards to. . a - letter


Green on the-matter, a certain gentleman was-reported to have remarked on tile beneficial “peace and quiet. of' our coun­ tryside” and,'- almost in the same breath,- to have said “we want to sell this” to. the tour­ ists. - In the experience of most us,


keep warm? -- MRS. F. GORDON,


: 112 Pimlico Road, Clllhwoe.


headed “Drinks for the tea­ cher”, in last week’s Advertiser, would F. Howarth prefer to sec the' children standing drinking pots of tea' and keeping a watchful eye1 on the teachers running and dancing around to


cussion about attracting tourists to the Ribble Valley. At the! meeting at Hurst


wealthy by modem living stand­ ards but it has many resources rn its facilities and its peoples. These must be fully utilised to develop the area and I applaud the people who are trying to organise this at every level. If any of them fail I would


North East Lancs, is not No correspondent has yet set


tion to the council if. he re­ quires foreknowledge and a full say in the running of the town’s affairs. However, I still uphold his right to criticise in the


thing as comprehensive even as “a few imaginative drawings" in a chairman’s report I re­ ceive as a shareholder. The board of directors however, are held responsible for the success or failure of their ventures afterwards. So, too, arc borough councillors or politicians. Mr. Musson should seek elec­


ions, contractions and all sorts of projects — usually success­ fully — often without the knowledge of their managers, and almost inevitably without the knowledge of their staff and labour let alone their share­ holders. I can’t recall ever seeing any­


Directors with a company ac- countant/secretary usually on the board. They plan expan­


Business is run by Boards of


refers to the whole as “busi­ ness”. I will reply as a businessman


cither himself or other readers anyway but there were sound and.private rea­ sons for not doing so. It in no way however, detracted from my argu­ ments. But let us look at the part


SOME degree of local in­ terest has ' been aroused by the able pen of Mr. Anthony Perry in his letters


sion that he had no sound f°r tourism in . the Ribble Vai- criticism with which to res- 'ey sinc« it was first mooted by


• his advocacy which most readers assumed and, a s it now turns out, rightly so, to be closely allied to the cause of additional profit to the residential hotels.-


him via the Press medium and many retaliatoiy missiles- have been verbally aimed at him, particularly with regard to the underlying personal motive of


PROFIT


in his letter that the matter of hotel profit is of importance after all' and, in fact, is the leading feature-of the campaign organised by the Ribble Valley Tourist Association of which Mr. Perry appears to be the spokesman for the working party.


cedes, that the smoke screen he has put up in the past, consis­ ting of a cloudy mixture of his concern for the well-being of the Valley and of the wonder­ ful benefits to be . gained by local industry, housing. . shops and etc., did not .obscure the issue-sufficiently to deflect the acute perception of your readers. Accordingly, he now admits


At last, Mr. Perry finally con­


to your columns. ' ■ Many shots have been, fired by Mr: Perry in the campaign


JUST WHO WILL BENEFIT FROM VISITORS ?


be a species of Government aid for needy tourist associations which looks as though public funds.arc concerned. Finally, there seems to be some reliance on the (as yet) ungranted sup­ port of the many of your readers who are not listed under the headings of the beneficiaries mentioned.


NO RUSH


form of the Ribble Valley Tourist Association is to reserve the lovely free open spaces of what is. after all. our own Rib­ ble Valley, for the one type of well-heeled tourist desired as patron by the Association con­ cerned. It is perfectly understood why the profit motive is tho spring-'


One. supposes that the plat­


HEALTHY public discus­ sion of two entirely separate plans, one for Edisford, the other to promote tourism, are getting inextricably mixed. On top of this some press comment, not in your newspaper, sir, has for the sake of headline-hitting journalese distorted the in­ tentions and ideas of those interested in the promotion


developments like the excellent plan to construct more modern hotel bedrooms at Roefield. These together are the sort of schemes which are not only in­ evitable as we progress, they arc also essential if Clitheroe is to prosper in the widest sense.


ENJOY


meet the veiled criticism that has been aired from the start about the tourist promotion scheme that it will ‘turn Clith­ eroe and the Valley into a kind of Blackpool’. No one least of all those in­


Neither plan does however


volved in tourist promotion wishes this in any form. Indeed in all the discussions private and public on the topic, the idea of conserving what we have has assumed paramount importance. But as one person at the recent open meeting put it: “Visitors are going to come anyhow. It is up to us to provide the right


thoughtful Council. Details of it could be argued but apart from welcoming it as one more stage in providing proper ameni­ ties for leisure and visitors, the Ribble Valley Tourist Associa­ tion working party are not con­ cerned with the details. Wo also welcome other tourist


plan. Edisford is a fine plan by a


Creating the image


lying the Edisford scheme, as well as the plan to -promote tourism in a controlled and organised way.


issue taken up by your corre­ spondent Mr. Cragg, of West Bradford, in which he quotes what I did not say, “We want nobs not coach people” adding the so-called well-known fact that the “working man spends more than our so-called nobs”.


It is also, Sir, the point at IN-PLACE


to get involved in a discussion as emotive as class warfare. However, unless Clitheroo and the surrounding district finds a new industrial identity, the insi­ dious change with it becoming a satellite town of the bigger nearby conurbations will con­ tinue. House prices will increase and inevitably instead of the balanced society we now enjoy, tho Valley will become, as Surrey has become for example, a largely middle class area which, in my view, would be a pity.


anyone who said in public that “We want nobs not coach par­ ties”. We need to create a snob- style image of being the in- place in Lancashire, as opposed to being Coronation Street if we are to get the right kind of tourists. It would be pointless our try­ ing to get vast numbers of


I would strongly argue with It would be invidious for me


facilities for them, so that they will enjoy and not despoil the area.” That really is the point under­


monetary benefits for shops, b u s e s , transport companies, restaurants, pubs, clubs and cafes. Nothing is ever specified as to the exact means whereby these concerns are expected to flourish but the working capital available appears to be thin on the ground and to consist of the natural beauties of the Ribble Valley which, one would ima­ gine, are as readily available to our own Lancashire folk as to tourists. Additionally, there appears to


He then goes on. to write of


.name of monetary profit to local industry, buses, transport companies and that gre at majority-of local people who arc not even remotely connecr ted with the catering trade ex­ cept, perhaps, as customers.


whelming tourist -rush to distri­ bute largess to the Valley -resi­ dents, be it in Sterling, Dollars or Rcichmarks, either directly or indirectly through the offices of the Tourist Association, nor can I envisage any degree of government financial aid to en­ able the tourist to do so.


Personally, I foreisee no over­


wrote regarding another project, “First catch your hare. . . .”


ALLAN LOMAX 2, Mill Cottages, Stonyhurst.


right


to park coaches in large numbers, and certainly no faci­ lities for large numbers of people that would come in such coaches.


STATIC


week on a building site, he may indeed spend more than a middle-class executive burdened with a mortgage earning £3.000 a year. But in a time of reces­ sion and unemployment, over­ time rates may be done and your labourer’s wages therefore fall, while the executive’s re­ main static. Finally, Sir, may we nail one


more misunderstanding that has crept in recently. If tourism which must make a profit, is successful, it creates, wide em­ ployment and prosperity. This is proven economic fact. It re­ lies on business and traders to promote it. It requires co-opera­ tive effort between competitive business to succeed. The idea behind th e Ribble Valley Tourist Association is to cre­ ate a format for this co-opera­ tion. The itinerary for the Bel­ gian travel agents is the sort Of itinerary we would hope over­ seas visitors might take.


coaches here, there is nowhere Association Working Party.


ANTHONY PERRY, Ribble Valley Tourist


Status symbol sauna


with the draining of new land to provide suitable football pitches, and for the labour of reclamation of the Castle field for summer visitors after a few muddy games and from chewed


LOST FOR


support. It is very evident, at this point, that' the people of Clitheroe intend to be compla­ cent and, without protest allow the council .to adventure their money—for adventure it is. The ultimate cost will start


MR. HANDFORD reiterates what I mentioned in my letter of October lSth, that those who seem determined to carry out this money squandering project would visit the site when others do, and not be content to make their assessment on a single committee visit, they would sec clearly enough that to insist on visitors’ cars being left way back on the baths car park would be the surest way to send them elsewhere. Thanks Mr. Cragg for. your


suggestion, a Sunday newspaper article hit the nail on the head. It read: “Have y o u ever sampled a sauna bath?" the cor­ respondent asks “I haven’t, but it is certainly a status symbol. The sauna is rather like a turk- ish bath, except that it is in a


know how many councillors have been ‘taken up’ on the matter. They must know all too well the general feeling of rate­ payers who must not be allowed to forget next election. In regard to the sauna bath


up goal mouths. Football play­ ers know about those all too ■ well, and groundsmen, of all the summer work needed to have them ready for next season. It would be interesting to


body could install saunas at a cost of about £500. It is estima­ ted that there are 2 million homes in Great Britain without ordinary bathrooms, let alone saunas.


along without one, couldn’t you?” It was reported that a certain


like this in Clitheroe? CHARLES MUSSON, Pimlico Road, Clitheroe.


How many homes are there WINE BARGAINS Boaujolals Reserve, Crivelef-Cusset


SABDEN YOUTH FINED £60


FOR OFFENCES AT CLUB


AS tho result of an incident outside the Ace of Spades Club, Whalley, a Sabden youth was fined a total of £60 by Clitheroe Magistrates.


of Padiham Road, Sabden, was ash tray was found, fined £5 for being drunk and Pleading guilty’to all the disorderly, £25 -for damaging a offences, Korol said that he car’s _ wing mirror and aerial, had been drinking, and after an


Michael Stephen Korol, 19, Korol was searched, and the ■


Korol was seen banging on the door of : the club and shouting. He had to be forcibly restrained. The policeman then asked him if he had damaged the car, parked . in George Street, and he replied “Yes, I did, So what?”


the damage to the car, and also to forfeit a £10 recognizance for not appearing1 at Clitheroe Police Station when required. Insp. T. J. Sumner said that


and £10 for stealing an ashtray from the club. He was ordered to pay £10 compensation for


incident hati been evicted from


the club. He had been separated from his friend, and was bang­ ing on . the door to be let in to find him.


has raised £4.60 for . the Baths Appeal fund.


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pensation for the damage he had caused. A jumble sale organised by


Ho apologised, and -added that he would, like to pay com­


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Remember and give thanks


BEING the son o f a soldier of


the First World War I always approach Remembrance Day with vivid memories of the stories my father used to tell me of the .terrible .suffering during


those grim - battles that were fought to defend our freedom.-


ling the horrors of Pascendaelc and walked with him through the utter desolation of. the battlefields of Ypres and Mons,


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names of the men who had fal­ len. Names I began to remem­ ber off by heart with every pas­ sing year.


_ . Men who in their prime had


world wars and now regrettably in Ulster who have so courage­ ously defended man’s right to be free and have so steadfastly maintained the c omp a r a ti v e peace and tranquillity of our


homeland. DOUGLAS W. DANIELS, 628 Southmead Road, Fiiton, Bristol.


Edisford already spoiled


“DON’T spoil Edisford!" What a laugh \ For me Edisford was spoiled years ago with all the cars, etc. As a child I spent many


to pack our, tea,. iowels, etc. and spent a smashing day down there. But not now. Sometimes you can hardly get through the cars. You might as well let the council make boob number three and put the car park on the top of Pehdlc Hill,


DISGUSTED GRANNIE


happy hours down there being brought up in Low Moor, Then / got married and went to live at Hcnthorn, where 1 still live. I remember the days we used


on this coming Remembrance Day — at the village memorial, in the city square or at the Cenotaph on television—let us all along with them remember. Yes, really remember and give thanks to those men of both


answered the country’s call and. paid the highest price of all— with their lives. So as we watch them parade


When I listened to him recal­


Edisford children at a disadvantage


IT WAS-very encouraging to read in Friday’s “Advertiser and Times”, that the Town Council i s , to support' the campaign for extra classrooms at Edisford School. Aider- man Robinson quite rightly said that industry, in similar


sise the point -made by Mrs. -Mortimer in her letters that the children in the Edisford area arc being put at a-.: disadvantage. Edisford school has been ■ res-. Meted to admitting children .in the term following, their fifth birthday, . whereas.- the other schools i in: the town will con­ tinue to admit, children, gener­


ally in the term, prior to their fifth birthday.


of that wilderness of, utter des­ pair, where millions paid the supreme sacrifice - came men whoso own sons later continued


, Thus, a child in the St. James’ or Pendlc area, who will be five in March:1972,:can-be admitted to school : in September 1971.. But .a child in the Edisford area who will be five, in May 1972 cannot begin , school there until September .1972. So that al­ though there is a difference in age of only two months, one child can have a whole year longer in the infants’ depart­ ment than the other. "A child of exactly the same


agree that the length of time spent in the infants’ department is vital to many children, and could have an effect on a child’s ability at 10. A child can already be put at


a disadvantage at school, by the fact that he was born at a par­ ticular time of the year, so this further disadvantage imposed on Edisford children by the education authority can only be vigorously condemned.


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AFTER a car driven by a Clith­ eroe man collided with a sta­ tionary vehicle in Mitton Road, Whalley, it was found that he had 166 milligrammes of alco­ hol in 100 millilitres of blood— 86 milligrams above the limit. For driving with excess alco­


hol, in the blood, Ichn Black- lock, 51, of Eastmoor Drive, Clitheroe. was fined £30, with endorsement, and disqualified from driving for 12 months. He was- also ordered to pay £6 doctor’s fee. Inspector T. J. Sumner said


age, i.c. a child in the St. James’ or Pcndlc area who will be five in May 1972 can begin school in January 1972,-so he would have1 two extra ''terms in the infants’ department.' Yet at the age of 10, these children will take the same selection examination for the secondary school (assuming it is still with us—even if it is not, the point is still valid). Most teachers, I am sure, will


circumstances, would have taken appropriate action. I would also like , to empha­


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