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8 Crtthcroc Advertiser and Times, May 1, 1370


BUSMEN NOT TO BLAME FOR DELAYS


T HAVE BEEN REQUESTED, by the Clitheroc Trades Council, to write you in order that the general public may realise the true position in regard to the Clitheroe buses, as no one has deemed it necessary to enlighten the people who


use the buses, and this applies throughout the country. Many services have been


Depot, ever since about 1966 there has always been a shortage of staff, both drivers and conductors. When the one-man buses


and are still being missed and not run at all, even though the public may have been waiting some time, and the fault is not altogether the company’s. In the case of Clitheroe


were started, it was thought that this would ease the posi­


but owing to the very low rate of pay, the very bad hours— on the buses it is worse than shift work, because you can start at 5 a.m. and go through to say 3 p.m. not driving all tile time conducting, but maybe having four or five hours off in between (this is called a split duty)—together with the fact that on some buses the heating system is appalling, staff went to other and more lucrative jobs. As regards drivers, there are


tion. I t did to a certain extent,


many jobs in this area which pay one-and-a-half times the amount of the flat rate on the buses. And don’t forget the busmen


have to put up with awkward people, late-night drunks, etc. People turn round and say


that they have heard of a bus­ man taking home £25 and more per week, but do these people realise that this man is —or was—working all the hours that God sent and some He didn’t? I know of one driver who


carried, up to this new law coming out, a photograph of his children, so that he would not forget to recognise them when he saw them in the flesh. Since the new law came out


have certain hours away .from his machine.


work; even if he wants to,land the management are mot allowed to let him drive, other­ wise they are fineable as well as the driver. So some services have had


Therefore this man cannot \


eroe Depot could not fulfil their obligations to the public as they should have done, and therefore many services to and from Clitheroe are now being run by other depots who are more fortunate in their staff. Another aspect of the case


to be ignored. In view of all this, Clith­


my questions m ig h t be answered .at long last. One must. agree that a


ally ask for concessions:- it more or less asked the council to negotiate with the Ribble Bus Service and the rural-dis­ tricts to formulate .a plan to provide a circular bus service


My letter did not specific­


i.,o well constructed that all parties, without exception, will sa,y, ‘This is good. This is how it' should be. This will work’.’’ fThis is certainly not true of


change in- tlie local govern­ ment system is; both necessary and desirable, but it is, unfor­ tunate, I think, that, In the appropriate paragraph of their statement, the Blackburn Cor­ poration omitted to repeat what I told them in their own council chamber on March 11: This change, when it comes, must be so well conceived and


is men. failing duty. This seems to apply more


now than ever it did before; if a man does not feel like turning up at 5 a.m., 6 a.m., or 7 a.m., he doesn’t, and there­ fore someone has to be called out of bed. Although two standby men


statement that Blackburn rep­ resentatives will be in a minority in the projected couna.1 as now envisaged. They will be, but because of


the recommendations as at present' constituted. One cannot argue with the


in the matter of the busmen, as not all men fail in their obligations. — K. W. Cragg, Transport and General Work­ ers’ Union, Grindleton Road, West Bradford.


on March 15, 1970.—which was the date for passenger trans­ port, whereas the law came out on March 1 for road haulage —a driver cannot work more than 60 hours one week and 72 hours the next, and he must


J E A N P A R K E R L A D I E S H A I R S T Y L I S T


Pensioners—Tues., Wed. and Thurs. mornings 5/6 72 WHALLEY ROAD - CLITHEROE


CIIATRURN PARISH COUNCIL ELECTIONS


TUESDAY, 5tli MAY, 1970 VOTE


THE LABOUR PARTY CANDIDATES HUDSON NIGHTINGALE


SHACKLETON TOWNSON


For ti Progressive Chatburn


E^o welcome for Maud


■ But, one is compelled to wonder, do they go to these extreme lengths because they feel the recommendations will be good for the area as a whole, or because they think they will be good for Black­ burn? Am I being unduly cynical


BLACKBURN CORPORATION are certainly tilled with mis­ sionary zeal for the benefits of the Maud Report when they spend such large sums of money in publicising their view of its merits throughout tile district.


in suspecting the latter? Otherwise, they might have


devoted a little of their space to answering the questions I publicly addressed to them on February 24. Could it be that factual answers might possibly be a little embarrassing to Blackburn? Perhaps, now that the coun­


are employed, they are invari­ ably on the road soon after arrival, and if a man cannot be obtained the service fails. I trust I have been explicit


of use to the public. Also there is a scheme for


the elderly whereby a local authority can allocate so much and the county council double


it.From the article in your paper, ho survey has been done and no approach has been made to either the rural authorities or the Ribble Bus Service. In fact I did not receive a


YOU MAY RECALL the difficulties which arose with regard to canoeing on . the Ribble below Edisford


letter in answer to mine, to be able to reply in time for last week’s council meeting. Perhaps,, if the councillors


in the Hayhurst Street area, they would realize the hard­ ships our elderly have to


had to walk around Clitheroe, particularly from the estates


representatives, who would outnumber the rural delegates in the proportion, of around 15—1,At the LMackbum meeting, I put forward the following proposition: “This meeting is totally opposed to the estab­ lishment of a unitary authority based on Bfackbum, as envis­ aged in the Government White Paper, believing that the im­ plementation of such a recom­ mendation wotffd be detrimen­ tal to good local government in the area as > a whole, a..d calls upon H.M.\ Government to give the matter long and serious consideration before taking any irrevocable steps in the matter".


the population factor, would remain', by far the most power­ ful voice amongst the urban


sion—theoretically impartial— refused to put this tw the vote of the delegates assembled. “I know it would ' probably


The chairman on- that occa­ \


carry”, he said, "but \ I don’t see what good it woulcl do” Is this the kind of cavalier


As for the rates aspect,\ it is >


attitude of which wo can expect an extension if' Lord Maud’s proposals are transla­ ted into fact


cil leaders have handed over the problem to their public relations department, we can hope for an end to this un­ characteristic (reticence, and


surely not ‘inspired guessing’, but simple common sense Chat, if one member of the proposed group pays a lower rate (with equivalent, if not superior services) than' any of the other authorities involved, thd' rates of that one member body, will inevitably escalate. Looking at the present rates


of Blackburn (among the highest in the country) and those of the Clitheroe R.D.C. (the lowest in the county!)


respect, I feel neither desire, duty, nor moral obligation, to subsidise the construction of Blackbum’c concrete Colos­


seum. Council.


be far better spent in our own Rural District!—J. H. Fell, Chairman, Whalley Parish


Our ‘lUJe bit of brass’ will .,, Refuse rate


not so dust/ MAY I, through the medium of your columns, endeavour to give the explanation requested by a correspondent in a recent issue, regarding the high cost of refuse collection? In the first place, the


our own bi-annual ’fork out’ would rise astronomically. Personally, and with all due


to climb, but the new internal bypass to cross, which is a real hazard for everybody who has to use it. We did have a bus service in


suffer. Not only have they the hills


this area about 20 years ago. One which failed to give an


adequate service and did not run to suit the residents’


have grown and there is more need for a service connecting all areas of the town—E. Penny, Hayhurst Street, Clith­


needs. Since then these estates


eroe. Concern for


mentall/ ill IN RECENT WEEKS, arti­ cles. have been published in the local and national Press, concerning the activities, from outside sources, apper­ taining 'to mental and psychiatric hospitals. So, af ter,years in the wilder­


report to you that good pro* gress has been made towards establishing better relations with canoeists, and that a pilot scheme has been-agreed, whereby the C-lStheroe and other- scouts will have regular canoeing on the river on an annual basis. Initially, the licence granted by some 30 owners, angling


Bridge some time ago. I am glad to.' be able to


canoeing has not yet been granted, but this agreement is a good omen for better- relations in the future. The first canoe meeting


associations and tenants of the water, will be limited to the scouts, who have agreed to display scout badges painted on their canoes for identification purposes. G e n e r a l permission for


will be a big race on the first Sunday in May, involving scouts from many parts of


Lancashire. One local newspaper car­


ried a highly inaccurate and garbled version of the facts recently, and I sincerely- hope that you will report tills in such a manner as will assist further progress to a


some of it probably yours. I like to think, as do a


could say or write, but let this suffice for now—Charge Male Nurse, Caiderstones


great number of colleagues, that our hospital has some grounds for being proud. There is a lot more one


(name and address supplied). Cleaning was


ness as it were, and despite some justified suspicion and scepticism, there has been bom, particularly locally, a feeling of relief and gratifica­ tion, at the enlightenment


public—relief and gratifica­ tion on.the part of the people


shown by a section of the


whose occupation it is to administer to these hospitals


and in these hospitals. I am writing as a long-


last being looked upon as being jn need of relief, and of being accepted into a stratum 04’ society, is a grand gesture. 'Thanks must go to the vari­


ous bodies and groups of sympathetic and far-seeing pedicle who have instigated


these moves. It) goes without saying that


the tot of the nurses- too, will in dito course be greatly allev­ iated,’ due to these outside influences and activities; and •this, believe me; will be gratefully appreciated. Long,; arduous hours over


serving member—almost 40 years—in this profession, vocation, call it what you will, and for such as myself to realise, after years of battl­ ing and frustration, that these unfortunate people are at i°nS


petuate this correspondence, which has now reached the stage of mere trivia, nor to spoil the happy state of affairs in our ' present state of street cleaning, I feel there are a few points I should like to straighten up with Coun. Bames, and in­ deed your readers^


not so good While not wishing to per­


roads which a r e swept weekly"—Councillor. I can swear on oath that the gut­ ters of Beverley Drive were not swept a dozen times in the first eig h t' years of its existence. Yes! The sweeper did come


He states that “all such


to the Drive weekly, that I do not dispute—hts truck com­


plete with brushes, stuck unattended at the bottorn of


the road an hour end quite often two, - proved that, but as far as putting those brushes down .to their proper use—I don’t think so. The man in question often


the years have been worked to try and keep these people fed. healthy and happy, commensurate with their environment, and with seem­ ingly little-interest from out­ side the “gaites and walls”. Such an ’ apathetic atti­


“national average” he uses is out of date, since none has- been published for three years. Obviously costs are up since that time. He is quite .correct to state


that the service costs Is. 4d., and on the face of it appears unfavourable c om p a r e d to other non-county boroughs. When we analyse it. we. find


munity as ours. Why not keep a few days


saw me deliberately watching him. I have no objection to a


workman having a .cup of tea, or whatever and would gladly give one myself, but I do net expect it to take so long. Surely as ratepayers we


tude tends to breed hardness and cynicism in such a com­


and is being, done in the local hospital for the subnormal? I’ll wager that you’ll be


open in June, and go and see for yourself what has been,


very agreeably surprised at the results that patience,


a different picture. So far as I am aware, we are


Scoufs race on Ribble Rate reform long overdue


permanent agreement on


wider lines. I f ear that-the other paper’s


reporter was more concerned with causing friction between canoeists and others, an the hope • of .provoking trouble which would make "good


copy”. I rely on your paper to adopt a' more responsible


approach. In a nutshell, some 30


HERE ARE A FEW WORDS for -teenagers. They concern them as much as their par-


ents. Recently, as befits this


owners, angling associations and tenants—who pay high rents and-prices for the water —h a v e voluntarily made facilities available to scout canoeists, at considerable inconvenience to themselves. The number of anglers in­ volved amounts to many a thousand. I shall be glad if you will


generation, they have been given the power to exercise the franchise—some evidence of adult appreciation of tho fact that they have emerged from the chrysalis into full life, justifying our administra­ tive authorities to expect them to accept their proper position in society and to make their fail* stare towards the contribution to the cost of local and national adminis­


tration. They were never better able to do so, f rom their


report on this agreement without referring to it as “ban on canoeing”, like the other paper concerned. I would not agree to allow­


bulging wallets. At long last the need has


'the granting of permission for scouts to enjoy themselves should be reported as a ban on canoeing—M. A. Barnes, Cannon Street, Preston.


ing the general, public to play- football on my lawn, but this is not quite the same thing as imposing a “ban” just because I allowed a small number of children to do so. I feel it is most unfair that


more than once put the coun­ cillors on their toes. Could I also remind Coun.


been seen for an overdue adjustment of our taxation and rating sj’stems to bring home to the teenager his responsibility in the matter of civic and national affairs. If Maud does nothing more


atmosphere—wily these d! turbances annually and triennially?


booth, our teenage voter, should think hard on these matters, letting any pom-26


On their way to the pot;n-


leanings they may have tab second place to that of s sound local economy. Rates should be linked fto.


For education and hieh ways, the cost should be m


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portionally to a person's ability to pay, and even, wage-earner over 18 vear, 0,


by the nation as a whole, y-i not the local authority.


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men-t for rates and taxation should be urgently and sev­ erely reviewed. These are matters upon


The whole system of assess,


which our new-voting agers should do a little serious /thinking—Harold Broughton Pimlico Road, Clitlieroe.


Why use poor


than expedite that change he will have served his gener­ ation to good purpose. I t is fairly generally accep­


ted that tho time ta s come for some sort of reformation in local government. Could there be anything


more ludicrous, for instance, than increasing a person's rates for making commend­ able improvements to Ins


Bames that not all school­ days are perfect, but then neither are all masters, an opinion stated in this colunm a few years ago, but what kind of man is it who can bear malice for nearly 40


years? Shall we call, i t quits now


this, and it takes Geoff even less.—C. Sainsbury (Mrs.), Beverley Drive, Clitheroe.


Appeal costs


crippling IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFI­ CULT to follow Mr. Brough­ ton’s line of thought (in res­ pect of appeals against coun­ cil decisions), as he threads his tortuous way through a maze of statement and counter­


tion, that "decisions by elected councils should be final and conclusive”, rebuts any claim that “local councils are infal­ lible” and then, presumably realising the injustice he is proposing, suggests that "one need not be averse to appeals". The most incredible section


statement. He states, without equivoca­


Councillor? By the way it has taken me less than half an hour, to write and type


home? How long must we put up


■with that feudal custom of ground rents? Where other can one build his home if not on tile ground? As Labour used to sing,


“God gave the land to the people, to whom it rightly belongs”, and any tax yield from it should be for the benefit of the people. All essential domestic ser­


vices should be departmenta­ lised as one unit, far the satis­ faction of official and citizens alike. We are again in an election


materials ? W h en Coun. Leo Wets


stated he was sorry to announce an increase in rents owing to the increase In the cost of repairs, I tried, in s letter, to show another reason why rents have to be in­ creased. On the site where I live, the


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of his confused letter, how­ ever, is that which suggests that appellants against coun­ cil decisions should pay the whole cost of the appeal, even, apparently, if an independent tribunal finds in favour of the appellant. Does he not realise that this


THE BOBBIN KING ST., WHALLEY


are in order seeing that work paid for is done? My husband, son and


would enable any council to ride roiigh-sliod over the rights of individuals, secure in the knowledge that few of them could accept the burden of the crippling financial lia­ bilities which an appeal would


involve? Even at the present time,


myself have picked up litter from as far as the bottom of the Drive and brought it to our own dustbin or kitchen stove. The councillor remarks on


teaching and devoted endea­ vour can achieve—especially


the only borough in North Lancs., besides Middleton, to


in the field of occupational therapy; and I venture to suggest that you will agree, that it is money well spent—


have a destructor plant on our scale, purchased on modern interest rates. This has been rendered


having known my husband since his schooldays and fol­ lowed his “antics” in this paper over the last few years. Surely even he must admit


those so-called antics have brought more good than harm to the town, and have


an appellant can find it very expensive to stand against the financial might of local cor­ porations, and I, for one, am c om p l e te ly against any attempt to extend the financial commitments of appellants and thus, effectively, enable any body, elected or otherwise, to act as judge, jury and executioner in matters which restrict, in any way, the rights of the individual, be he in in­ dustry or not.—Frank S, L. Moon, Church Street, Clith­


eroe.


necessary t>y our circumstan­ ces, as we are short of tipping space, particularly for obnoxi­


chased tile- destructor, the County library ? Yes ! THE DISCUSSION by the


ous waste. In 1966-67, before we pur­


debt per head of population was nil so far as refuse col­ lection was concerned. The rate levied then was 9.7d. The published average for Lancs, non-county boroughs then was 9.9d. In 1967-68, when repayments commenced, the debt per capita rose to £2.85. Hie rate levied was 9.5d. against the Lancs, non-county boroughs 10.5d. In 1969-70 the debt further


town council on the futur e of the library, reported in your last issue, highlights a. number of crucial issues fac­ ing the town.


that the present library is not good enough, but they seem uncertain as to how to effect an improvement. ' They are obviously faced


The council have conceded


for sewage only, and -the fol­ lowing year we will probably have a rate increase for the running of the baths. In our view, the council


should have the courage to act now, by at least opening discussions with the county council again. I t does not seem to us


with two solutions: improve it themselves or ask the county council to take it over. If the issue were simply a


increased to £5.41, the rate levied increased to 12.4d. against the average levy- of 11.3d. I t is seen, therefore, that if


hi the hands of the town council-since 1909 is in itself nothing to state-with pride, but rather provokes the sentiment t h a t 'i t would appear that little has been done to it since that time.


important that clitheroe has had its own library since 1909, but important that we consider the adequacy of its library for 1979. The least- the council could


. library. We know this would mean


better library, the only answer would be a county takeover, because Cl-iitheroe simply can’t afford to build a new


one allows for the debt-, we do compare very favourably with other boroughs. Middleton, who are in a


■ So far as the sewerage works are concerned, .this scheme is rendered necessary by modem standards of effluent. In my view, rightly so—my


similar position . to ourselves, levy a rate of 15.4d.


an increase in our county rate of something like 3d. The other alternative, of


heard voiced is that for the library to be run by a bigger authority does not neces­ sarily mean that it would be run better. But neither does the implied


An argument which I have


do is to ask the county coun­ cil two simple questions: (a) What would they do if they took over? (ta) What'would it cost? We will .then be better


only criticism in this respect is that it should have been earned out long ago. -It may lighten your corres­


pondent’s gloom a little to know that the county have, approved the scheme, and have agreed to make a grant if and when our rate exceeds' the ' national average for seweitage treatment. We do, however, have.: to


spend '-the money before,, .we can claim any support. The amount'would have to be cal­ culated according to an accep­ ted scale!—S. Moore (Coun.); Chairman' Health Committee, Clitheroe Borough Council,


Hayhurst St


. subsidising bus'ffares.-and orga­ nising a bus service in the Hayhurst Street'\area. I .disagree with the council


needs a bus IN YOUR PAPER recently an article was printed' on - the council’s decision to refuse


on their-'findings in the mat­ ter.


1 - -


. saying; “Wei are not having this: We might as well go in with -'Blackburn, as tolerate


1 this—I anv -'most disturbed •about it.”- . I t seems' -obvious that


its existence, and yet the council were being asked to -throw, away something that had been in their hands since around 1909”—was quoted as one opinion, while, on a sug­ gestion that the county coun­ cil be approached, another ' senior alderman is quoted as


• simply the provision of a bet- 'ter librarj5; ‘‘Clitheroe is struggling for


course, is to try to improve the existing building and ser­ vice, and at present, this is' what the council intend to d°. The issue, however, is not


converse, that i t would be worse, logically follow. At school, pupils often


informed as . to what Is involved. In conclusion, may I refer


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to another letter in your last issue. We do unreservedly with­ draw any suggestion that


. enough to indicate. We are, of course, delighted


Aid. Robinson misled the pub­ lic about -the Civic Hall. Our information, was incorrect, as Aid. Robinson was kind


that the loss on the Civic Hall is being reduced, and we would like to congratulate the council on achieving this. We have been among their


.carried out, but X have yet to bo' shown such a book bor­ rowed from. Clitheroe Library. Wliy should Cl-itiheroe pupils


bring library-books to show -to the staff, on independent research that they have


be a t a disadvantage in -the range of books offered to them? Now living close to Whaliey,.


I am able to rise its excellent library (run by the county): and I have the further ad­ vantage of still being able to borrow books- from the lib­ rary in my home town, Clitheroe Library in its


most persistent critics on this issue; we sincerely hope that the improvement can be sus­ tained and we will do all we. can to help.—Barry Newall, Chairman, Clitheroe' Liberal Association..- .


- .


sary and important that Clith­ eroe - retain its independent library service simply because it is independent. In our view this is short­


• available for a new library should we eventually decide we need one. 2. There is no foreseeable prospect of Clitheroe having


‘ Blackburn unitary area, there is less likely to be capital


sighted for two reasons: 1.


some people believe it is neces­ Children are ‘if..we do merge in the


sufferers WHILE . BEING PLEASED to read that the town coun­ cil have considered'’ making an approach to the county council with regard to a pos­ sible takeover of the library, I was dismayed to read the reaction of some of the councillors. I t is their ijeaction which


the money available to build a new library. , • Our' ' capital' reserves are


reduced by the swimming baths plans, we have a lOd. rate increase likely next year


'-.,1 find -it'd-iffleult to see, in .CUtheroe Library, much'’ of which -to be proud. Tlicyfact that (t ta s been


/ ’flabbergasted” me, and which ’to me’, seems “ridiculous".


present state is not sufficient, and if the town has not the money to spend on it to bring £-t up to a reasonable stan­ dard, -then it must be pre­ prepared to look outside. . Perhaps if Clitheroe had


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