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THE CUTHEROE ADVERTISER, M a r c h 3 0 t h , 1 9 0 6 . THE HOUSING QUESTION.


London Alderman's Advice. How to e re c t


Workmen’s Dweliing:s. A topic wliich luis come proiniiieiitly


before tiie iniblic in the town of late bas been tb;it of the Housing of the People. Xever before in Clit;heroes history has the town enjoyed such a period' of universal prosperity, and with the development ol new industries the chances of those who will have t<r come into the town to follow their enip'oyment oblainiut; houses in reas­ onable time, are remote tinless there is a great btiihling boom in tthe coming summer. Houses are sadly needoil. and there is no gainsaying that bu't.


'Ihe


Trades Council have unsuccessfully ap- pcaleil to the Town Council to adoiit the provisions of Part h of the l-baising of the Worki- g Classes .Cel and to promote niter est in the question t'he local Trades Coun­ cil held a meeting in the Weavers' Institute on Wednesday evening, btit from the at­ tendance on<-. would jtidge that the pei>|) e or the town were n,rt at


.inxicms on the


question or ready to ado|,t the pto visions of the Act iiame.l.—Cotincillor J. Windle presided, ami the meeting ufas also addressed bv -Mderiuan J'red Knee, of Battersea, and secretary of the Workmens


National Housing ( oiincil. Cotincillor Windle, at * 0 outset, ex-


1,ress”d remet at the small attendance to ■o-Vider a°q.iestion of so much importance.


Two mills in li’n- town were close upon sfirtin- and if something was not done to piovide hotises to accommodate, the workeis


these mills wotihV never be able to itin as hev ought. He went on to rcter to ihe treaiment of this qttestion, the. adoption o


P in 111. of ti'.ie Workmens Housing .-V t m Town Council where dm -a t te r on v


received the. stipiKWt ol . '" i


anil himself, though alf members adiuitte there was a scarcity ot houses tm the question would right itscl. b ■ e U.,icved they could erect


;


th.an the Corporation ,1 they couM ^ b wh-n thev had built tnenv limy. I n , ever, could not compel people to buy ■


.„,qhoUscs. aud it left them no n....r,i Alderman hied .a


solution of the difficulty. i. 1 Ke-.e whci throughout


,.ni,a.-iive


,„ ^''’;’ •"'^t^he^lmn individual nwner.ship said. wanting t


-nership rati r lU^ sr.mething of Cbthe- shackleton


r”- l''cir


,o adopt this .v him bv.it


l.ai'.cashtre. th spinning bad


aiely at t askl'l hint what was '('•I'ith'eroe that they w.inted


'T ‘' f t h i -V't? and Mr. Shackleton ami


Unfortun-


^ p ere Miff'-ring from " a,'ir\ though its bonsing


a scarcity of ''^tn •. ^ conditions n. n Lancasbire. y -


,US could shim m crowding.


.ov:', roomed t'v'V" i.ne.roe.m tm.- ■


tlK-m overerowd.-d. ai ^ tenements, seven


crowding, and tit, i ■ • twenty mme


these iieopl'. ^ u-iu-K-'i ly


velniKMl in a U'to


-omi um'*> in *' tliere \'.1> a y =


•q was advisall b't'^


tusianrcd


i r su! '1',


irlit' I j) |)&


1 the increase ol f " i b'v ple. IV ,q uttlls


siirh a teinporar and >'>0


'j, ...


, , . , ,a g e tor q,,. last ceir ot ovei-


vet in ns _bl- ,.„,„ucd


and


V'Th'ie '-t'v'Ubl have heel, at ^qa.ilalilo for


surv'vise ibosr a, it


mice, but on one occasion it brought forth something larger which gave power to die muuiciiial authorities to build houses. He could not say whether they did it witli their eyes oiren or intended it. Whether due to” the carelessness of town councils and Ihe i»ople or not, there were a great many advantage.s of which people uHavail- ed tjhemselves of- In IdOO, when tV' Housing Acts were consolidated, it was shown they- could build houses, but all local authorities were disinclined to take it up, and had iu maiiv cases to he forced to take action by citizeas themselves. If something wure not done in Clitheroe there were likely to be :ia5 eases of overcrowding and not do in tiie itext two or three yd^rs. t^ien they would get another incr<*ase ot rents out of all proportion to the hou^e.> Ihev occupied. He held that local aiith- orilies were in a hetter position for obtain- *uv' iomil than builders, for they' cotihl btiv ill large quantities, whereas the build­ er "could not, as his capital would not allow him unless /he wtas in a big way, and if they could not get it by yoluulary agree­ ment they could acquire it compulsorily, though that course ai.idcd about I’n per cent, to the cost. If they decided to build L


mean Ih acre.,s. aiul huul lie estimated iU (Tuberrie woiihl l.>e worth


’OO houses at '20 to the acre that would an 't'-’re,


which would meati .something like three- lieiice a week for rem, and if they put more hou.ses to llie acre it would mean less. The Council might litiild througli the local builders. I't.iviiig the prices lixeil by the archilect in coiisulialioi, with a 1 ntldmg committee, .uul have the prices ii.vcd by .i eoiniietem surveyor, and the 'ouiiders should work to that scale and have it ooue under a rigid clerk of works system to keep tile Imildmfs up to the mark. If that were the huilders woiiM he emplo.ved more


nr less directly by lihe Council, 'and at any rate the people wouM i^el houses. He lIiu not know the prime cost ol erecting houses in Clitheroe. hiit the amuiiiil ot return co„- si.l.-i'e:l siiiitcient by pithlic authorities who had l.'iiilt or were 1 uildiiig under existing eireiimstam-e.' he did know. 1 hey could l.oin.w capital from ihe Public Works l.n.uis Cnuimissi'niers or in the open m.ii'- ket at sniuewlt.it les> uiiefons lerius. lliey eniil.! liniTow money for l.milding for liti xe.irs. and for ,lie land for .20 ye.ii's. P'or '"■■eiy .i'lOO per cent, per annum would U.' required for sinking fund to i-i.'duce the capita!, tud could honow money at 3;, per eeiii. with one per ceiu. tor rel<airs and h,r rales ami inciileiual exiieiises hmuglit die tut.il to 7i per cent, charges on the l-'roperiy. .iiid they coiilil lix tlieir rents ac- l oi'.lingly. He 'was not sure wiietilier in (.'llther'r.h they had Corponuion land or ii'ii; most oji.i lioroiighs haii. voire; "They've welly prigged it o'.' .XMeniiaii Roliin.so,,: W'e liave : bin it


is I'.o, I'eof lUe eel,ire of the town. Coiiliiming. .Uderm.in Rnee s.ti'l ,1


,'iev ha.i t'liporalion laud wiihin easy I'.-.ii ii thev might use th.,1. I llher p'i.iees h, .,i


.eioqie.l Part 111 of the


,,nrsod with of


of over-


sud'.lenly de- ib.Mi


' ' i ’me,rf!i^roased. Ho. held oi'a town to have a snr-


^ y^^p^ jit as


, ,, Hr.,e temporary ineniase of construction of


oeettrred periods when ....


"" "-Ne .K-ighlionrhood. He


'''’.n-V ca • of Leek which through ‘V p^,,pase and overcrowd-


small I'lox cost


"'■p Have done to "s to accommodate these


peo ‘"■'■yvl' nithero.--- got four addmo.v ■


q thousand ,,,,p„se mumcipld ^o ' ;


111,able to S'-"- ' ■ , iPt.; back and ^'’ -oi; C s - at all costs.


■greater luimh.r ^ Vr-eause thev were V '. ;


,o foster .If


, o emplovmcnl and. accretion increasing


’' " V f l i n ^ m i a g e t o t b e


'-■n.s It was not " ; swallowed up workers to nave the mema -


inercast.* l)u:


" " “ ' i Z L , .Jo o . . , ^m h^r’V u ^ m ^ f ^ate due to educa- '"'’' ' ' r ; , 'i ..'vut o,',"' ihe


•o t seemed to him four or liye- tunes on. ban the rate paid tor education, and


f IN is ’ll I ' I


the lamllords were making a good llirng out o it ' Landlords would not lx; able to do •f -r oresem there was not a greater de- fo houses than the supply. The


I f :


r 'd fo r Is were simplv taking advantage ol • n -cessitie. and taking not omy the 1 ■ Imt 1 hi'' Lmtis o v r and alu.ve. nd< ' " 'V r if bi.'v were going u,


^ pq. caieillated -.l.H "


have an soiiv.- iNr-.' (juir-t-'il.


tiifiii? iiTt


workers


,':^';;q;:ired imuses ^o,uld he re h 1 ' were they g"mg ‘o ye'


Na


i i l l s 'c n io n f w . u i ( - p ; ; x - con- ,.-q„q a ibv'bl


heallli plaved a prominent liart. <.>n • S i l n e ihev weie called tqmn to preach a


nf ‘


n, o,


in which the interests of ^


ovcrrrnwdiivj m wbif’U d v


l>.,rlL.,nent had been m travail on son e .w"'do,-trim- hv tthe opposition. ■


h'-d to an" increased .-.monn ’ I'his. after all. was a matte


; -J,'j


= ; \q :.,. ,votild want a 7 ' houses, and if r,he


.\e' ,ii,d liuill houses to gooil efteet and tile benei'ii of lij.e lilaces ..dopi'iiig it. He qiiole.l iiartii'ulafs relating to other loea.i- iii-.'.s uit!, a view t*.' ],roving the I.seiielit.s oi lii-e ,\e:. It uas, not mi'i-ely a question ol r.it ‘S .ut'l I'eni.s bin also ul heahh. which if .iffeeje.l, would affect .ij.so the rates ,ind. r.-iils. Ife iiiged them to use their powiT ,o jn'.-vaii uiH'ii the Coniieil to .idojil tu.' .-\ei. ,'.nd if lliev would not ilo it. November »a^ eoiniiig roini'l and the workers in t!'.e lo.ii, slioul.l iiave .siiffieii-iii power 10 make iheinselvis lieard. If they Wont llglu then ll'.ai is ti'ie only way,—(apiilaiisey. of tlie Ii’mliem-e aske.l tile leelur.-r


i, ' I'lithe,-o,. .idopted lliis .-\ci Would iliey hav.. obi.iiu sii'i'ial .-Vet of P.irli.imem I'f li.iil re.id lo that el'fi-i'l in the report


in ,'. cont.-mporary of the luwn t'oimcil meeting wh.'ii this question was before the l '. .uncil. .Al'lerin.iii Knee, replying, said em])h..l-


ii-allv. !io! Tl'.ei'e seeme.i to Be a misap- pl'ei,elision ill s.'vei'.il Coniieils in l.aiiea- s'uir.'- ’Pile CouiK'il simply p.iss a te.solu- li.m t.. mlop! Pan 3 of die Housing of the Working Class.-s .\el. BS'.Kl.


lliey then


iiad to g,., tile e.iiiseiil of llie l.oeal Cn.v- ermiieni Board for perniissioii to horrou. hilt Prey 'A-oiiid I'ul have to go to Parli.i- ln■•^i l:.i all as no Parliamentary saneiioii was required. H.- di'l not know what had |■om.■ over Some of the down Clerks in iliis enriii'i' raf tin- rountry.


'Phey iiuisi


/i.ive l.'oeii inooiigaziiig. rif we reniemher alight, and We liliiik


ue .lo. ihe ruling of ihe d'owii Clerk in tile (lllesiioil lefel'i'ed to slid not rel.Ue to tile Housing .\et at till, hill to ,-Vider- 111.Ill Cowgill's selieiiie for erecting liouses whii-li lie l.iid before the Llouiicil. and which uould have inaced the Council s'iniewhai in the position of a laiildiug soi-iety. Heiiee there is no relleclioii uiialever upon the d'owii Clerk in the nirnig he gave.] .\lderii-tui Roliiiisoii |ioimed out tliat


money could f'e I.erroWeil from a local hiiihiiiig .sorielt at -1.‘, per cent., and that


.li til - 'and of .'111 ye.ii's tne houses became u'.ieir own properly. d'liis, tile leeuirer coiilemled, tliat will,


the jiei'ceiU.lges he h.id addeil to his .'iy |.er ('em. for interest, .•\ldermaii Roliinsoii'.; I.', I.ee.ime ‘.I |)er cent. 'Pile peoiile who eouiii Borrow at Id per cent., said ;\ldei- in.iii Knee, roiild look alter theinseives- .-VnyB.i'ly muhl Lirrow lUoiiev if thev could pl.iik .iown ^.dtl. ;£l)0. or ;^70, as the c.ise migiii he. The ]ieuple who waiileil to Buy their houses will do so. W'hat ihev Were there to iliscuss was to provide


houses lor the [leople who wanted houses under ally eirciimstances. .\lderm.m Rol.insoii .said llie lecturer had


made a great i»)int of the ]iroperty lie- eommg an asset of the Cor|-N.ration.


In


the e.]se h-.. had named it heeame their own innividiially.


.c.;sions and had brought forth httle


re.sixiiisibic for hriiiging Alderman Knee, otighf to have .given him a fuller statement of the cirriim.stances. 1-Ie had felt dis- appoiuled tliotigh ihe I,ad followed him carefully in his emimeralinn as to the cost. He said they were trying to get all


-Alderman Cowgill said lie thought those


they could for as little as they could, and advised them not to set capital las a target and always be shooting at it. Why should they expect from a Caroporatioii wfho were custodians of imblic money something they could . not. get. otherwise. They did feel keenlv the wlmt of more houses in Clitheroe The lecturer had contrasted a booin' with ;i slump. Unfortunately iu Clitheroe they had hiul a slump, hut he could take them to houses at the present time where with the boom the rents ware not so high as In of 16 years ago-• He was, however, pleased to' sav they had improved. Hith­ erto they hail been deiiendent on one class of trade and they were improving because they were getting a variety.


II tliey- got


more vtirieiy they- could siioculate more wilh the money of the ratepayers. Referring


to tile Corporation lauds, lie said tltey were ill the uufortttiiate position tliat the whole of the iiroperty was mortgageil to the Tre/.isurv. ami were debarred from lettmg any of it at less tihaii t’id. l>er yard. If ihiiv L'oubl (It'visc sonic sclicnic whereb) they could utilise this Uiiid and let it at less than d.'.tl per yard and could let it at a peuuy a yard it would he a good thing. Tliev would tlieii gel tiouhle its agricul- turai rem. mid the present generation would '.et the advantage and future geiicratioiis Benelil to even greater extent.


if they


o.ilild devise a scheme and borrow at per cent., thev could build hou.ses and lo pay at :>'l tier cent. If such a scheme coiiid ue devised and tliey could break away from the Covernmem. he would he a good sup]iorler of Councillor Windlc- .Alderman Knee expressed dislike to the


);lua.se ''sj icailating with the ratepayers’ monev, maintaining that the ratepayers were the workers.


It wt.s. he said, like


iwilliiig a mail with using his own. Tliey were nut ask.-d to siircnlate with tlic ralc- ])av,.-rs m.'iiey Bin tn utilise existing ina- ehiiien. Wiij'i regard lo the (7<.rimration Lind he though: tin- matter one e.ipalile ol arrangement and was of opinion lluil it the inaf.er was laid hefore the 'I'reasnry and the Lor.d I'.ovei'iimein Jioaril at the same lime, some arrangement miglit lie made. It the ( 'oi'piir.ition derided to Iniild upon i'lie I'.iiil tl'.emselvrs the Treasury, l.y one of th.ise ie.g.il suhlelies. might regard It as Hot ii.iriing with the lainl. ami allow it.


.Aiiotl'.ei- qiiesticiiiur asked what it niat-


lei'e-l t., them whether tile land was six- peuce or .1 iieiiiiv a y.ir'l. hilt ev<-ii Aider- man Kiii'e se'eme-l to eonsider it mittered .1 good deal Referring ;o liie overerow ding whie'l


.AMi-rmaii Rme had meiiiioneil. .Alderman t'owgill s.iiil al the lime they liad from 2n to r.il lictisi's St.Hiding <-in|ily. Tlu- qles- lion w.is gone iiioi e.ireftiliy and it was I'oinid Pl'.i tile parties who iiihaliiled them Mere eonqielled to iiili.ihit them owing to the largeness of the familv ,iiid die lowness of the wage. Ill tile whole of the r.ises ih-V were families in poor l■ireumstan^es. families of five, six ami s.'Veii wilh only one w.ig" e.irner.


Cli theroe Educat ion Commi t tee.


.\ .MKI'. I l.w. rir.Al' .SIHOUI.H H.W'I-; IIKK.N ".2H0RT."


'I'he moiiiiiiy meeting of this Comniittee


w.is lield in tlio Town H:dl, on Tiiursday afternoon, ids \\'orslti|i the Maym- (Coun­ cillor j . 1. \\'hi])]i) |■resih.illg.


I’res^-iU :


.Miss .kef.oil. .AMeriiicn T. ('owgill. J. Rohiiisoii. l ',uiiieillors ('. r. .Mill-hell. J.


.‘-'t-.g ii'. I. .A. Wade, W. I.. ( Iriiiie. Rev- J. II.' Wrigley. Rev. R. K. .Moss. .S.J.. and Rev- Wil-'oii .Miirrav. I’.ior In die eommeiieenu-iu of the of-


diii.iry liusiness. the .Mayor exi>iessed the iiope that the Commilti'e wmild deal ex- Jiedielllly witlli the liiisip.e.s.s. as several mem hers iiad III leave e.irlv for other appoiiit- IllelUS. .Udemian t'owgill said ilie was rather


sorry there shoiilil be Viiiy sueh restrictioiis ■IS lie luiil iiui'iidfil lo raise wli.il he eoii- sidered a very imiuirlaiit matter. 'I'he .Mayor: Tfiey are not reslrietions at


ill. only let us deal with tlie husiness as ex]ie(litionsIy as inissihle. J.et us ilo half an hour's hiisine.ss iu l/alf an lioiir. .Mdermaii Cowgill said the matter he had





inieiided to hring forward had to do with the interests of the elder scholars. The inailer was linniglu up .some six months .igii hut was ailjourneil hecause a new sciiool was iiroiioseii lo i.e liiiilt and it was ihoiied that arraugemeiiLs could lx- made to I'oniply wiili the requiremeiils which the (-'oiimiiltec deemed necessary. Tlie ques­ tion was still iu abeyance, the eliildreii were .still stifl'eriiig disadvaiUages, ami the pro- ]insed seluiol had “gone to pot.''—(laiigh- !i-r). W.Uat were they to do? As luttlier -Moss had previously pointed out, llie elder seliolars of Clitheroi; were seriouslv haiuli- e.ipped iu .silting for the scholarships which the Lanc.ashire County- Council professed to give to elemoiuary’ sqholars, and that .suffering or disadvantage was ailribufahle to the negligence of that Committee. 'I'he .Mayor .-aid if the oilu-r hiistneiss was


dealt with iu good time, it miglit lie poss­ ible to bring that up at tile close.


Will'll the minutes of the .Stkiool Atleiid-


aiire Committee were lirouglu up for cotl- lirmatioii. Alderman Cowgill said he thoiiglil they ought to recogiii.se the titteiid- aiice of tlie children at lihe llritisli scluxil. I.ow Moor, the jxirceiitage of whidi was 1110 ill tin* iiihintsh and 1)2 in tlu- mixed


deparlnieiits- When tlie attendance in ajiy ■seliocil ill their jnri.silietion reached, sav, an average of O.'J per cent., ghe children .should he given a day-'s liolidav .


I'atlier .Moss agreed that siicli a cnur.se


might lie adopted to eucourage llie cliild- reii.


The average atleudanee for the month


of I'obruary was 93 per cent, in tilie mixed departments, and 91 for the infants. Councillor Mitchell utsked if any' coni-


niimicatioii had heen received from Miss 'nodeii as to her noii-altendance at tlie meetings of the Committee.


If not mis­


taken he did not think Miss Boden had attended a single meet'uig up to the pres­ ent, and It was hardly fair, etither to tlie Committee or to the other lady niember, tlifit matters should he allowed to remain ill that jxisition. AVliat was the rule


in


such cases? Mr. Eastham; Six montli’s absence.


No action was taken.


NATIONAL SCHOOL ALTERATIONS- “ THE TAIL' WAGS THE DOG.” In connection wiuh the alterations and


improvements proposed to be carried out, the Clerk put before the meeting corres- poiideiie-e wliich Iiad ptissed between the Rev. J. H. Wrigley (on behalf of the managers) and the board of Education. Mr. Wrlgley's letter was as follows; “The managers of the National Sdiool


htive not yet received any reply to tlie letter of Dr. .\lnssoii of 27th December, 190,"i. 1 venture therefore lo task whetlier (1) iu tile event of the managers .spending upon the sci'iool the sum ot


which the


ratepayers are pniposing to jirovide, the school will lie recognised for a i>eriod of at lea.st seven years;. (2) iu the event of th'is sum being thus e.xiieiided tlie lloavd will undertake not to demand tlie erection of a new school iu Glitlicroe uuriiig the said period ot .seven years. ’ T|he board replied that tliey were iiivahle


to Slate “whether tlie ex|X;iiLliltire of would render the premises salisfacWry iu order to coutiiiue recognllioii for a period of seven years until they liave been sup­ plied will plaii.s showing the tilleratioiis [)ro|H.ised. 'J'hese [ilaiis shoiiUl lie foi'war 1. eil ijliroiigli the l.oeal Kdiicatiou Authoriiy as, soon ;is jiossihle.


itlt regjtrd to ih-e


second question the Board are ohv'.iusly imahle to give tile nndertaklng for wlii'.n vuii ask. I have lo explain that tin; delay ill replviiig lo yuiir letter has hecn causcl liv tile lioai'd (laving heen in comni.i li la'ioii w'ttli the I-od;d Edncalioii .Atitliorily ;.s 'o llieii" intentions in regard to tlie r.r'iq ised new scluKil. Tliey tmdersiand tlia' die .Aiilhorily are prepared not to pnx-eed at once wit'll tin- erection ol a new S'-lilil 1 voiir iiianagers will lorthwitn remedy the defects in the premises of your sch'i. 1, Mr- Wrigley said he would put in tlie


plans as suggested ill the Boar.Is letter, and move that they he sent up lo the Bii.ii'd of KdliiVitioii. I•'al.'n■l■ Moss seconded. .\ldenitan Cowgill; Do the managers Jiledge themselves to carry out the aller-


alious ? .Mr. Wrigley: 1 distinctly dermed our


position two months :igo. .Aldemnin Cowgill: Then wlial are we


plaving at? .Are we to he :i sort ot Oat's ]i.iw lot the maiiagt-rs? 'Hie board of Kdiu':uioii ilislinetlv s:iy "if the mtuiagers will do so :iiid so we ivill forego the com- pelliiig Ilf :i new si'hool. We h:ive ap prolii'lieil tile manager.s, and as 1 said at the List nieeliiig, it was said that llie mai agi'i's li.ive agreed—• 'I'he Viear (interrup.iii.g): .\u, sir!! I


distinctly stated they had not. -Alilerinaii Cowgill: 'I'heil wliere .are we?


I’erhaps the rev. geutlemtiii will inform me where we .stand in relation to the board of Kilnralioii .mil the inanagemeiu of the .National .School. .Mr. Wrigiev: t'ertainly. The r.ilepay-


iTs' niinmiltee iiave apiirnt.ciied us, ami 1,'iey are preiiared lo furnish th<- sum of ^jlUO. We shall he deliglueil to spello


r ih o— .Mi-..Mim:iv: He.ir. Ih-ar. .Mr. Wrigley: If— .Mr. .Miirniy : If it is given von. l-lxac'i',' .Aldenn.m Cowgill; Th.it is l•.\:lctly what I w'.iiit to know.


'I hen we .ire in this


pnsiiiiiii; We, as an i'idiicaiioii ( 'iiiiiinillee ri'i-iignise .mil arcept this plan in ail honesty Ilf mmive; we send this liLiii In l.lie bo.ml 111 Kilnralion and we praeiieallv s.iy die inaiil.i.gers will do the work. .Alderman Roliiiison : Ves. .Aldermaii Cowgill:Then wiiat right h.ive


iiiBiiager. Laliirr .Moss: It is the position of tiiuh It dies not matter liow


ing the miiiuy.


tile money is fiiuinl so long as it is fouiiil. .Milenuaii Cowgill : I want to put Ald-


enmiii Riihinsnii aiiil .Mr. Wrigiev wliere they iiugi'u to he. .Mr. Wrigiev is aeliiig the ji.irt of eoriespoiideiit of The schixil :it the pieseiU time and .-Vlderman Robin­ son is working iu the interests of the ]x;ople liiiiliiig ilie money. Ho has all confidence ill tile ]ieople producing the monev mul as a manager he is prepared to pledge his Word tor liiese plans. On the other hand •Mr. Wrigley, wlio, f say, is the corresixind- eiu. wiinls to send Up the (ilaiis lo see if the Board of Jiducatioii will acept them. When they eome- hack, lihev come to this l.'ommitte.e and they simplv Sav, “The board have acceiited litem: when will vou lliiil the money? there is a wonderful dif­ ference there. .Alderman Rohiiisou is pre- leired lo let this ]ilaii go up wiuh llie honest imilerstanding that if approved liy the bo;ird of Education tire work will ho dime; hut -Mr. W'rigley, tlio nuiii in auth­ ority, distinctly says “uo.” -Mr. Wrigley; No, no- .-Uderm;in Cowgill: WoTe coming to it


as nicely as ever you saw aiiylliing iq your live.s—(laughter). Mr. W'rigley 1ms gone a good ]iarl of llie way already. Lot us do tile work iu ;.a husiuess-like way. • .Alderman Robinson: 'The amiHiers .are


prepared lo do the work as shewn cr, the plan.


.Alderman Cowgill: If Mr. W'rigley \v,ll


say that instead of Alderman Robinson, T slmll he quite satisfied, Alderman Roliinson: I am as much a


manager as .Mr. AVrigley on this job.— (laughter). ■Mr. AVriglcy : Hear, hear. Altlerman Cowglli: And I ^ay you are


not. Mr. W'rigley is acting in the ixisilion of corresiKiildent.


We lo [ileilge tile credit of the raicpavers In dial extent wihen the priiicip.il maii.iger says: "I tell you distincliy I will n o t.’ Where is tile ])osilioii? .Mr. Wrigley: 1 :im not the princip.il


Alderman Robinson: He is only one on


a vote. Councillor Sagar: Surely we can put


confidei.ee botli in tlie managers and tlie


ratepayers. Father .Moss thought all this talk wVis


out of order. The money had been prom­ ised, tiiul wh.at itad it lo do with lliem? Alderman Cowgill asked llie Clerk to


read a communication from the boarrj of Edialitioi'i, and the Committee would see that the ratepayers were never mentioned. He would like to know wlio was the spokes.


nun for the man.agers. Alderman Robinson: I am one : I am a


Wrigley lo say tl'lat if these plans jniss, t.ie managers will see the work is carrierl out Mr- W'rigley: I can put our position till right. Let me put it in the form uf :i


sjxjkesman for the money. Alderniaii Cowgill: II f can gel !Nlr.


simile: w-e are simply a conduit pipe. Alderman Cowgill: .-Aud we are- dealing with a coutluit pipe, and I say it is not


honourhhle. Rev. W'. Murr:iy (pointing to the phut):


Who sent the plan liere, .Mr. .Mayor? Mr. Wrigley: 'J'l’ie managers of tile -N:it-


lonal Sdiool. Mr. .Murray: I'or wli:il?


.-Vlderniaii Rohiiisoii; Lor the :ipproval


of the Committee. .Mr. .Murray; .After tliey are aiiproved—


wliat then? .Mr. W'riglev (witli a w:ive of llie liai’.d ):


A'oii can iiu what you like* .Mr. .Murrav: 1 w:int a geiulem:uily ::ii-


swer. .Mr. Wrigley: W|liat 1 1 tell .Mr. .Murray


thev can do what they like, aiul then he insults me by saying he wants la. genllemait-


ly answer. .Mr. Murray: i''.xaclly, and 1 repeat it. 'The Clerk g:ive the hi.sloty ol the pi,in


wliich was m;ide by .Mr. j!le:izard and was relunied liy tile JloarJ nl EductilRiU for ceriaiii suggested .dli'i,:ilii_iiis, and iio. thing was alTerw:irds lie:ipl ot it iiiilU the corres])oiidence l.etween .Mr. Wrigley .iinl


the Board. .Mr. .Miirr.iv: .And assuniiiig the plan is aiqi,roved the iiuitler will rest wilh the managers ? Cuuiicilliir Wl.ale: 'f hen why do not the


managers s;i\' hoiiotirahlv wlu-ther or not ihev assume the respoiisihiiity ? .Mr. W'rigli'V: I must protest nioSl


slronglv ag.ii'ist this use nt the terms "hi*u- mirahle and "dishoiiourahle.' "geutleniaii- Iv'' and '■inigeutleinanly. " and 1 venture to ask the CtAiirm.in whether lliat is hin- gnago wliieh shoulil he used iu this Ci-*iir milUv. We do not enme liere to he iii- sulteil. 1 have iiei*ii must grossly iiisiilti'.l liv uo less than two gentlemen, and die oiilv li'iiiig that is laid against iiie- is dial I said tile plans were in the h.ir.ds of the ( 'iiininittee. B'oimi'illor W/.iilei Why do not liie man.


■igers 111' the .National .Scliool make theiii- selves reS|Hiiisillie for these allerations. ,is ihev ongi'il to dll? 'I'liey are nfil treating this Coiiiniitlee .uni the represeiitalites uf the r.itep.iyers fairly. If thev uiiderloiik respoiisil.iiily then the nialler rmiM go font(..ril.


z ■Mr. W'riglev: H:is this ( 'niniiiif.ee :iiiy


right 111 pry iiilo :iik1 crilicise :ui arr.iiige- iiieiU 111 tween the ratepayers eoinniil!< e :iinl the man.Igers of tile .Naumal .Schmil? If noi, iheii these geiuli-meii are uul only insulliiig hill out of order. 'I'lie Clerk: We have nothing to do with


ihr.l ;it .ill. .Mdermaii ('iiwgill: I'l'.ey iiuisi fe-. l sliti.


ill.it the m.iiiagers iliad I'ontideiice Ml tile parlies who li.id proiilised lln- iiioiiey, other­ wise. 11 ilu" worst ranie to the worst, the t.'iiimiiiui'e Would lllld themselves in the ridieuloiis and liioiinh ]iiisilioii ol being calli'ii npoii III provide the iiiiiiiev.—t"-'An. no.")—Would die managers giiar.mtei' ih.u the work should he done widmut cost 'o the Cl iininitlee ? .Mr. Kl.sihani; 1 do not think we are in


,1 position lo ask that. .Alilermaii Rohiiison : If the managers do


ask litis t.'omniiUet- to lind aiiv iiionev, 1 will vole against them. I'he .M.iyor; It has in.; hee:i asked foi


yet. .'MdernKiii Roiiiiisiiii: It the iiiati.igeis


were 'asking the Cnininiliee for iiiuiiev 1 I'otilil ninlerslanii .-VMerin.in t'owgiirs ^jieecl;.


-Mr. E.islham iioiiiieil out ih.u tin- pl.iii


was suhmitled in order iltal the Comniitlee migdit sie whether the proimsed alterations 'ivere satislaclory or not. Ihev must as­ sume that the managers were going to sjiciit! the nioiiev- Councillor W a.de : .Are we to .issiime


that the managers will he resi.oiisihle fur the luiniey? .Mr. J-iasiliaiii: A'es.


W riglevs position? .Alderman Roliiiisuii: I will give mv pei-


Councillor Wade: Tlieii what is .Air,


sonal giniraiilee that l/!iese plans shall he carried out according lo the siiecilicalioiis. It the Board ol Etluc.ition had to come down and demaiul a new scliool ljuili of


marble, is it likely that .Mr. W'rglev would ;ive Itis imderlakiiig.


I think he will ;ive his umleilaking that the m.inagers will


he re.sjMiiisihle to tilte Committee .iccurding to the plans. Coimcillor W'fide : Th.il is all we w.mt. .-Alderman Cowgill; but it :ilw.ivs comes


In.m .Alderman, Robinson. This is a case of the tail wagging the dog.—(laughier). hallier Moss could not see wliat the Com­


mittee had to do witli the matter al all. They had uo right lo go prying iuiu the priRite liusiue-ss of tlio niiuiagers. Ifie Clerk; If this Committee thought


the board. Alderman Cowgill; 'Jhe letter from the


Uhe plans were objectionaBIe in any respect it would he our duty to point that out to


board of Education distinctly specifies that if the mautigers will, ’ etc., and what we


want lo know, and what we b.-q- a riglii lo know, is rue assurance t.hat llie managers will assume tire respou.sihiliiy-. W'c cannot ict.ept .'A Idermau Rohiiisoii aas an authority' The Vicar: Then the proper tqay to do


th.at is for the Committee lo pass ,a resolu­ tion asking the managers any question they


desire. I have no right to speak ffir th,. manager.s any more than -Alderman RoLii,' son. .-Ask in a proper wjiy if you want j definite answer. Alderman Cowgill; 1 tliiiik .Air. WrinU


is begging the matter altogether. Tlx i^,;. agers have Iiad the board's letter before them, and surely they don’t want a com­ mon butqher to iiileqjret tlie letter. j, has already been discussed by ilieiu. Councillor .AlitchelL 1 should like n,


second .Aldern(.;ii Cowgills appeal lo yp,’ Wrigley on this matter. tJan .Mr. \Vri'>;,, not give us some kind uf answer? Mr. W'rigley: 1 have no right to q,,


° , i


I h.ive given my own persoiud view r,.,' i cletirly. Tile m:iii.igers will speiiij money that is put into their iiaii'js aceenj- ing to the iil iiis .ipproted liy the Ituard j| Ednd.itioii. beyond ilt.n I am not [jt^, pared to go, ,iiid will not go. Alderman Cuwgill: Is lintl s.uid'ai


AVh.at -loes it mean’ “ If we get ^Klij [,'j, into our li.iii'is we'll see it is s[>em.’' ti-,a[, ■ thout it—■ 'I'lie .Mayor: In earrying mu ::i.- .Alderni.iii Cowgili : (.'tit no! If m-ev ■


I'unie frem?


.-Alderiiuii Ri ■!'ins, 111 : l.imk inTe_ .Aldernniii Cowgil! (lioily): 1


yoiir tiews, Aldenii.ui Robinson. Vr.n the l:iil wagging the dug. and I w.nu ■).' dug to wag the tail--- (Litigliteri. .-Aj,),.,. man Robiiison will give the un,;..'r;,iki;-,' and lie lem cover the amour.t, Ui,>; Bat l' I'losiiiiiii on the I'oard is not linr, ,,i fimiid:i|ii'ii iiun.iger. We wan; a rlir,,-.- L.-'sur iiiee Iron: llie iMunl.iiu-lieaii. '.ei :mist write the :iianagers on tiiis "niaiut f.lt'lotlgh, I believe, the letter h,:.- Le. twii'i, ei .Msiilei'e, 1 ;it m:iiuiger.s' nieeiin .Air. W'rigley: We eaiiinn give a;,', .


derl.ikiiig Ilf ill,' nugers w;tli,,;ii nl;;;;; it on the iniiiiiles. .Aldemuii C.iwgil! ; Tins is oifiv


lemi>t to stave it off.—( '.\o , no.'’. —p,.;, why e:iiir.'it we ii o'.: die asiiraiir.' 'wi.eii nij.ll.'r h.i.s inn!


I'linsideraliui; ,,f


iiiainigers ? .\li!i rill.Ill RiiBiii.'.,.Ill: If lii.- n..,


doii'l I'.my oil! liiese plans, .\:.;e::T.; Cuwgill ean t.ilk his in-ad i.ii. B dull'l 1.11 IV out tin- ]>!.111S 1 sn.ii:


!


ag.iinst the iiiLiiagers ami .'.g lins'. scheme. .Mr. W tigley .' 1 I'nave lo go imw. , ..) | wish to give the niile.sl infunna'.:,


can. If yon like p. luit a definile q', I will give .1 ilefuike aiisurr. Councillor Waile: A'l-rv will. W i .


ni.iiiagers nuke :in-niselves I'e.-i.. ;;s;i i . ; ■ the earryiiig i.ui .,f liie alli raiioi.s


j,. ,


roiil'nleiii'e in lin- r.i!ep:itens' roii.mi:' ,,j are iii'iiviiling tin- an niey ? Mr- Wrigley; M\- answer is, it


.... ..


iilely iiiqiossil.le for me to speak ,is ',. the managers will do iiiuil thev ha\.- lu,;. meeting. 1 am only an iiidivi'lu.e a.. ,iger. If you will send that as a e. u;;,;. .■ eaiiiin from this Bo.ird, it will Be e icatesl to the m.inagers and a reply- '.viil 'u; sent you. 1 am not the corresponde:;t, but ;.ni merely wriiing tin.', letters lur tl-. - , i'iirri'S|i indent wim is .iw.iv. i'atiier .AIoss mered aperovai


111.ms, ,md ( 'oi:;:i'ilior .S.ig.ir se ' ..ii:'C. said lie liiong.hi they lUigL; to h.e.- -n. eiiiil'iileiice in i*oih tin: iiniii.igei's ,e ,) :.... raiep.iyers. .s'lnim'd the wersi ei m ' wurs; the ihiiig voiiiL! drnp: i:. i ' mi.lee wotilii not lie hroucle in;, ii.ilLiily.


On lieing put to the vote, seven mein: voted for ihe nn'iuon and four ag.iii’s-,.


■i ill-: EDL'C.-A I'lO.N "ilL'DUl. i :.e '.-liimue of amoums requ;:-,


edue.uioiul purpise.s for the ensuing memiis Were suBiiiil'ieil l.y lue i ;t'. Mr. W. J. .Mitci.eiB '1 i'.e !.iig,',>; .: tile expenditure w.is for s.ilaries w year, were ...etuailv ;£lL.') 13. .lie quii'ed 1 eiiig .£3,00.1, ow;::g to the :. inerea.se.s in iiie se.ile.


liiin r as lol!o\,s:—.'seln,ol requisites


v'h'b .6'-’LI; furni'itire, £,'6'-’ ; buildings, F.oh .£'Jtl; iuel, ligl,


trial sen,,..I,


£,l-9i ; I’asiiai e.vpenses. £ , . i ; ari; s, £,33..i ; B ,.iks, ptlming,


A.'!’ ; m.i;;.len„iii'e of q, ! ; o,,mk,i ,..vj ,


mim.'tr.iiion, _,qUi; makiii" £,l.,''J'.l .ns ;tg.o;,Si £,'I.|U| i. ‘m're:i>.: . f £( I —Ro'eip;., : aiim;.,l grant. £T.6B'i; lec gr.ii;:. ■dll gr.i:^'.;, .,^771 .N.itional .'sifin-,: , llieiu,


i: ; bank iiileresi, £ ,1 0 ; reii


for boy 'll iiidlistri.ri sdiool, ;£10: £jl.li'.’--’ to Be r.ii.'ed from the r.il .iddiiiem he lu ,l estimated tile £,l.)^ to Be rep.iiil towards the I’ll d u i tile total .imoum requir-..! £ j l ,7 6 0 .IS agaiii.st Fl-.'ilfi Lost ve.t; woiiL! n quirr. a ten;ieuny r.ite.'cr '■I'l-.is',- of oiie-lulfpeimv o’li last ve.i." - - l i i e I .slimates w -n': ,i; ;,to\. !i.


I'OR Till', NK.X'i' .MEE'i'I.NG.


^ Loimeiliof .Aliti/lieil g.tve notice ol a-- iniL'iuioii lu iiitriH-lufL* III lilt.’ !U'.\i iiiofoii- ihc (|Ucsliun ut tc.K’hing hygiene .ui l pcnincc in the lij.iv scliCK)is. AMerniaii


;iIso signitiod his m- leiuiuii to j>iiL forwarul the seriou-'


posirion nf the ^*Mer scholars in the lowii \\ilji ii \i(‘W to aiikiptin^f some ihamiis uIuto- hy thes/.^ sehnla.rs ctathT Ik* draftcki inti' one paninilar school-


A vote of ihank-s ierminiUeti a


which nr,-ui)ie(I fully .wo hours. d o w n h a m .


PAKISH 1 hs annual ratt*payi*rs meotinu was lioKi ui the


ochoolrooni, on 'J'hursday ovenin^. Tliers only a sumll attoncianco‘and ?.lr. K. C. A>sbeton ocenpif'd tlio chair. A;: tin* n-tiiin»r riiimls were roippointt'd, viz ;—Mr Asshefon, chairman; Mr. I hos KoliiiiHou and Mr. Kobt. Kobinson. orpr* seers ; Mr^ Thos. Kebinson representative on thf


local aiva Sub-Counuitteo number S. Mr. Jauiri^ Parker was appoiiited school manager to repr»'* sent the Parish, The accounts of St. Thonis^’^ dole and other charities were road and pasfOtk The meotintr was brought, to a close with a of thanks to the ebairman.


lien


■Uii.i rc[..:


rent ui Couiicii Iieating „ud


in. 'I.' j *o o inin»


• fTiiojr E v e n t s ca s t the| before.' J


^nniverBiry S


«uocJ®y* Gar vices. CoD^res


2-:W


School Annivernarj. arid 0-30 o parish Chti


yve-ley, tlw


v S F e c ia lS e ^ ” [ U Chapel. H Services


„ Chapa'.


|S=i*T“ ivionday-


“° ■ ■


General Meeting, Eibblosiiale I Public Hall. q CrietP


W o d n o s d a y P,„d of Hope Union's AnnuM <,-!


;^KIU they’ll spend it. In that ease, whei.' will the mher


s T s S r s c i i ’a d Oisb


m n Auction Mart, lo-m


< ru t l5 e ro c H&VC Futn.vv,


3oi:


•n„. i,r»po--'Ls M ' .ptvmi^cs ,»lv..n.'i'.l II o::-'' :■


■ [.'..luetiiion I'lnii"""’'^ I';"'" • in-uUiiicot wr.iiiG'-y'' tl... Bii.inl 111 l'■•'l»‘ "'■’"•^


tlu- \v.if ol U„aul la-siuiiciit. ■


> ""


.q.k-iiii.iii Ki.lini'iim ■' '■ iill. ml... I.


ti... ii“.:.’-' pLile i! iil'I>l"'''-’l ‘


q-,ql..v iv.iul.t civ.. .... mi. uki. it i'lr


...limiltca .It .ve..'."o'‘ '2 ^ ,.„>..;il by 'hi- Iium-'S--'-'; ivi.uKl Liiv.. I'.cim.l 3.^^ ,,iy uiii'llwr III not I f f"


l.lll-i-


.-[luieiliilny III .' - nut ill .J.'iuiO'" ,.„uililiiili:illy.


..,1 "


pl'KlIll luriiu'-imiiiu- ^ atitu.U. K in'.-ili.ilil.v dqIv i.'HC "I die t'. IK • • • •


,.Hj-i'teAl tu


The nitvioyt-is •.vv,-rv "I dr- G


u-iiifU M.'liool vimiiuu'.'.


‘ : A "l ilt'’ - ' Xalioii.il M'hunl. .iM'l •' ‘


h-j a i-lief v-i'-'H ILa l;.;'. ■ A ccUdviHaii j'h u!.n


lUiit whou Ahh-niMU O'ak balUeiiair. al Uiu -lU" "• L.itii'ii uitvliuj. .'au \ I viii i-rutehe.-. M.o'iilil hi;>iiie5:2'.''" And ti.t'


£ivu:i--”Alt..’i'.ai'>;..' tn :'l’. ♦ ♦


* Tile R«.-cior I't >■ Raillf’ii) in .K'lVri.-i.t'f wish c'f his iiiftli'Ml d t.iA’ree t'ar six iiK’nin?. ■.robadlv be S[feiU. I'- 1 L.i'.iiii of .Mrs. R.ii ;■ .ul'liliuiui Work .i:,,. . ' .illi'r.iliilus to .■s'. J..; .v.-riousiv iiu.il rm'.:'.|.|'. '. ii'.'.lili:. .till! w sill.': :".; i':',.‘.:’.gi.. will ■ fii'i'i .1


• « 'I':,-* ile.uh i'eci;i'i" t


Mr. Till -Ilia- I l.ii^r' • .;i> was Wt.'ii k:.i ’W


'.'V the viU:icrr> . : W .. r a i'-n^ iu!int'’-r •’i


lif i.iisiiK->s ■ I


bil'iinuToii. whie!) i't.y,; a.’Ue.urt'Ml b\ b.i> .'v r. d | hf:le dl.U Mr.


■ hmiinii. undi fj'ir.e' r< : lii.s ;;rand''huy,,:;ier. ' |


i.nrsi. ’I I'll- •lU'-niu-Mt a.-’ i'-y ( 'ivar‘'h\.ii’'l '-;i W'-i: ♦ » -■ I


domimiinL: the I


<’l David.. T'iTere u.is a. «


- .


•*r tihe Parisii t.'iuir--;i. • n tliA- Vir.ir


I'iie Viear I it t-'inha'i'i 'i.'


re.«.|K,n,|enis whi» have ' marks in eA'inievdion w


Avi, in <'ur m-M is.-'U'.-. * ♦


riuirUvs LiM’ke'if. i-'f


\-.is unluatiin^ ieadl in tip [MU}' S lilK'ils \ai'il. Toll fell and seriously loot.


* * Mr. Uiliinntnn o( Ridj


lus MAiik* prolifu.' ewes. I U'conled iho fan tluu on lambs. Mr. billin^^


tu that 1k‘ has widdn i| te-ceived 17 iambs fixnu * ■


* ■ * Mr,. Paxtor, ilu* ik-w


Dansh Church. (NHvnueiu •-'imdny last.


r.ord Sluitllewonb ha


yioMm to his old onem ni cons<.*quoiii'o tlu' meel Commission <au Can a Isa i 'duch he is chairniaiij ha


» * « I'he InUiard match at | i |i.v;


Liberal Club between ih A Team representing the rl tended in favour of the cl At a special sitting olT I'lhursdav, Messrs.


Harke. John Watson. . biilcock. and Tohn Dnwsf l overseers for Oltberoe. tl| ^Fr. A. ’


T. ■Robinson. * * ■ *


.-:i a .A


l.y li.e B.:1"!'|.'"'


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