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by law.’ But the internet forced the studio to say, ‘Well, we’re going to make this movie.’ 24 hours later, that movie had a green light. And yes, I cheated a little. But I think I was onto something. Something that people would be interested in. ‘John Candy’ is about redemption. Wesley Snipes appearing in ‘Deadpool & Wolverine’ is redemption. Hugh Jackman, appearing in ‘Wolverine’ in the yellow Admiral Banana suit, is about


redemption. And these 32


We’re now in the late 2010s and you’ve been talking about your creative voice, authorship, of course, ‘Deadpool’. This is where we are. you had actually first starred as Wade Wilson, a.k.a. Deadpool, in the film ‘X-Men Origins: Wolverine’, 2009 then managed to give the character his own franchise in 2016, ‘Deadpool’. The movie is also one of your first credits as a producer. Why was it so important for you to be involved as a producer from this point on? Well, to go back to ‘Green Lantern’ in the less sor t of funny. . . yet horrifying tragedy context. ‘Green Lantern’ was actually one of the greatest experiences of my life because, well, one, it was a joy to shoot. But I also noticed while I was shooting that I really had shot a lot of movies at this point, a lot of dif ferent k inds of movies. And I sor t of thought, ‘Maybe I k ind of know what I’m doing a little, ’ you know? I’m not trying to like f lex on anybody. But I was still in this, ‘Yes, no, yes, sir, no, sir, how high can I jump, sir ?’ way of being. And I would watch creative decisions being made and I would think like, ‘Well, ok ay, that’s a good creative decision’ or ‘That is a nail that will go in a cof fin that I alone will lay in in the future.’ [laughs] And at this point, I ’m savvy enough to realise that whether it’s ‘Green Lantern’, whether it’s ‘R. I .P.D.’, whatever it is, any of these movies that didn’t work , they’re going to call it the Ryan Reynolds movie that didn’t work . So ‘Deadpool ’ came along after that. I had shot test footage for it a couple of years before and the studio really didn’t want to do anything with it. I t was an R-rated comic book movie and you just don’t do those.


‘Blade’ was one thy did, in ‘98 with Stephen


Nor r ington. I t was great, amazing movie. But they never really did them again, at least not at scale. ‘Deadpool’ is a f ringe character. People didn’t really k now who he was. And I loved it. I was obsessed with it because I loved that he k new he was in a comic book movie. I t was k ind of meta. So then some a--hole, he leak s it online. [laughs] And I ’m looking at the guy in the mir ror brushing my teeth. And I’m like, ‘Dude, what have you done? This could be punishable


things are very, very impor tant. And redemption to me sometimes can mean, like with John Candy, Wesley Snipes, something or somebody you miss desperately, but you didn’t know you missed them. And when you create a story around that, or you show that on screen, has a feeling like nothing else. Like when Marvel said, ‘What do you want to do in the third movie?’ When I did ‘Deadpool 1’, it was like, there’s no money. It’s a $56 million budget for a movie that should have been budgeted $150 or something. For these k inds of movies, it’s just huge budgets. So instead of spectacle, we used character. We wrote, we wrote and wrote and wrote and wrote a dozen alt jokes to any given moment. Dozen alt lines for this. We f irst wrote a comedy, we r ipped it up. And then we wrote an emotional story and then added the comedy. And that’s the same process that happened with the other movies, too. You just need to put something on the screen that people connect to. And it is not superpowers. ‘Superman’ with Chr istopher Reeve is one of the best superhero movies ever made because the dude could fly. That’s one thing that people really liked. And that is not what made that movie. Clark Kent made that movie.


Tell us about working with Denzel Washington on ‘Safe House’? Ok ay, I ’m work ing with Denzel Washington. I ’m really, really scared because he’s Denzel Washington and I’m me. Anyway,


I ’m ter r if ied. But the great thing is - the


character ’s ter r ified. So it’s no problem. I just have to play scared the whole time. It’s great. But the last scene of the movie, he’s dying on the floor and the guy’s like a method actor and he’s said like two words to me the whole movie. He knock s on my trailer door and says, ‘Can we rehearse?’ I’m like, [nervously] ‘Yes, come in.’ And I r ipped my Denzel Washington posters down [laughs] and I ’m like, ‘Yes, sit down. D, may I call you D? Would you like some f resh non-potable tap water?’ [laughs] Anyway, he rehearses the scene with me. I t’s a very power ful scene. He’s going to cry in this scene. I t’s big, big, big time. With this guy, with an emotional scene, you get it twice. You get it once and then you get it twice. I f you f --k up, that’s on you. That’s not going to be on him. So you better get it.


So he does this emotional scene. It’s crazy. There’s all these stunt guys, these dead stunt guys around in the scene. And he’s been shot, wounded, dying. He admits all the stuff that he did wrong. Tears star t


rolling down his face. And


suddenly you hear - and this is take two, by the way, because take one, there’s a technical problem - you hear, ‘Come fly with me. Let’s fly. Let’s fly away. .’ Dumb Dumb is sitting on his phone. I ’m Dumb Dumb in this story. And I can feel everybody look ing around like, what the f—k is happening r ight now? I can see Denzel with a tear in his


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