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how dif ferent they all are and of their time they are.


NICHOLAS HOULT: The f ir st time I met David, this I still remember quite clear ly, because we were doing the ‘Superman’ screen tests. And I walked out and we’re in this studio where there were lots of shadows throughout the outside because of how the sun was setting and whatever. And David had taken a chair out and found the one spot of sunlight out in the car park sor t of area. And you were sitting in


it, like, getting energy f rom the sun, like


Superman does. And I looked at him and thought, ‘ I ’m going to go and say hello.’ [laughs] And I walked up and you stood up and I was like, ‘Oh my gosh, he’s tall and handsome – he’s Superman!’ I could see it in my brain. I couldn’t imagine anyone better for that role, in that f irst meeting when I met him. And I still think that, even more so now, having seen you do it through the shooting.


DAVID CORENSWET: Thank s goodness it’s not the other direction! [laughs]


David, you have talked about how your brother was a source of inspiration for you, physically not fitting in and how you used that to metaphorically not fit in as Clark Kent, because he’s such a big guy in navigating things?


DAVID CORENSWET: Yeah, so my brother -in-law Tim, I didn’t have a brother growing up, I have an older sister who I’m very close with. Luck ily, she picked the best brother -in-law I could have asked for. We are now very close. He was my gym buddy when I was training for ‘Superman’ and he’s six/eight and now 270 pounds – he gives the greatest hugs.


NICHOLAS HOULT: You give good hugs!


DAVID CORENSWET: Thank s. That was actually one of our f ir st conversations. One of our f ir st bonding things was just talk ing about hugging each other.


NICHOLAS HOULT: Yeah. My wife was telling me, ‘You are a fairly big person and no one really gets to hold you.’ And I was like, ‘No’. And then she goes, ‘David could probably hold you.’ And I was like, ‘Yeah, I ’m going to ask him.’ And I did and he held me very k indly and I felt safe. Yeah. [laughs]


DAVID CORENSWET: Yeah, because it is rare when you are six/four, as we both are, or somewhere close to six/four, depending on the shoes – that was one disagreement we had on set. He got bigger lif ts than I did in my boots.


NICHOLAS HOULT: No lifts! It was regular shoes! There was always this thing where he’d be like, ‘What’s in your shoes? There are lif ts!’ And I’m like, ‘This is a normal shoe. There’s not a lif t in the shoe.’ There was probably a lif t in your boots though, your boots were practically platforms. You looked like a Spice Gir l in those boots! [laughs]


DAVID CORENSWET: For a few reasons! But having a brother - in-law who is bigger than I am, he’s a very comfor ting presence to have around. And it’s a rare thing to be a big guy to have somebody who is bigger than you. And so


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anytime he walks into a room, it’s very hard not to notice him. But when he introduces himself, it’s, ‘Hey, I’m Tim.’ And he’s very polite and he doesn’t like to intrude and he doesn’t want to inter rupt anybody and he likes to not be in the way, but he’s sor t of always in the way, just because he’s so big. So I took that idea. And also, just everybody feels such af fection for him and sor t of wants him to take up the space that he does. So I took that idea of Clark Kent should be lovable but should have that thing of like, ‘Yeah, you always manage to be in the way! You’re trying not to be but if you would just try not to be a little less, you might actually be in the way a little less.’ I said this somewhere in an ar ticle that was published and he saw it and I apologised to him because he’s also a shy guy and he doesn’t like to be the centre of attention – but I think he’s forgiven me!


Lex’s distaste for Clark/Superman varies for each iteration – what are your thoughts on the reason he hates superman so much?


NICHOLAS HOULT: I mean, there are plenty of dif ferent reasons and I think that’s what’s fun to dig into with Lex. I think one of them being that he’s worked to be, in some ways this hero, godlike f igure and he believes he deserves this adoration and respect and love f rom humanity. Because he, I think in some ways, is driven by love and he’s trying to achieve it for himself. And then Supes [sic] turns and kind of gets all the adoration that he feels he deserves. So there’s a little bit of that and yeah, and jealousy and fear and all those things mixed into the melting pot, I suppose.


How hard was it to switch off at the end of the day when you two are going at each other all day during filming?


DAVID CORENSWET: Sometimes it’s hard not to… when I was doing scenes with you, it was sometimes hard not to let my appreciation for how amazing it was watching you work sor t of well up in me and undermine whatever stoic or fur ious feeling I was supposed to be having for you. But there is also this great mutual respect between the characters, I think , ultimately. Yeah, so it sor t of worked.


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INTERVIEW DAV ID CO R E NS WE T A ND NI CH OL A S H O U LT


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