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I just wanted to get to know the man behind this, because the more I look at your work when you use light and you use space, you use the mind and it’s very expansive. And the alien stuff? I’m kind of wanting to know the consciousness and the person behind that kind of wondrous madness. It spills out of you, comes from you and I wanted to tap into that source a little bit.


A lot of things that people think are symbolism aren’t symbolism. I just think it looks cool. I just like to look at it. It doesn’t represent anything to me. It’s just something cool to look at. I don’t know why everybody doesn’t do that.


I’m not really thinking I need a representation of something that way. I know that my music is a lot of times very optimistic, and a lot of times that’s the way that I am. I guess it would be horrible if I didn’t want to be that way and I was that way. That’s the way that we are. I’m not fighting it, and I’m not expecting it. I just kind of go with it.


I think that a lot of times, people are just thinking too hard… Doing things with aliens—I really don’t believe in aliens.


I think that they’re awesome, in that [they] evoke the mystery of the unknown, or whatever. But even in things like the UFO, I’m not a UFO freak, but I like that people will think of shit like UFOs, and I don’t really question if it’s real or possible, but it evokes things. Does that make any sense?


Yes. [laughing]


I don’t like when people believe in everything. For me, there’s only a few things that are in existence that don’t require believing…


But things like love, and trust, and this ray of understanding. These people around you. That requires real belief.


There’s plenty of times in life where you don’t know what to do. You don’t know what’s going to happen with this relationship. I guess belief, for me, is pushing forward to what you think could be a reality. So in the time where Steven was struggling with heroin, and it’s just this great dilemma inside yourself that’s like, “What do I do? Do I get rid of him as someone in the group? Is he making the group worse? Is he making my life worse? Can I help him more than I’m helping him?” And then you just don’t know what way to go with those sorts of things.


So this belief and this love, this way of projecting, maybe that’s what belief is for.


I don’t have conspiracy theories and shit, but this dimension is not real, and love doesn’t exist. It’s a quality of the mind. There’s just nothing else to it. If you don’t believe that someone loves you, they don’t love you. And if you believe they love you… you can feel loved. It’s just as simple as that. I know it sounds like an insane person saying that, but it’s... you know it’s true, all the time. People are living with someone they think absolutely loves them, and as long as they think that they feel great. Then when they find out, “Oh, I don’t really love you,” they’re crushed. It’s about what you think is real, not actually what’s real.


Bam. Now it’s gotten all metaphysical, huh?


In addition to touring, recording and saving the world, the Flaming Lips have recorded a 6-hour song. Seriously.


And of course, all the proceeds are donated to local Oklahoma foundations. That’s 6 hours of continuous psychedelicized music with a view, benefiting the Central Oklahoma Humane Society, and the Academy of Contemporary Music at the University of Central Oklahoma. The big idea: The Lips could reach out to their fans via their website and Wayne’s Twitter following. For a donation of $100, fans would have their names appear somewhere in the song and feel good about contributing to a pair of worthy causes. Sean Lennon recorded the contributors’ names to the song. Musicians building new models, using art to support great causes... what a concept. Well, the weird is about to turn pro. Wayne had the magic idea of releasing four new Flaming Lips songs, stored on a USB that comes INSIDE of a gummy gel skull. You have to eat your way through to get to the music. I know, right? wait for it... I can beat a 6-hour song. How 'bout a 24-hour song? Insane and totally true. Inside a human skull. It just gets better, doesn’t it? You can pick one up on their website. Hats off to the outlaws and madmen of genius.


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