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You don’t really have any justification for doing it, you just do it. But if you’re like me, and you’re lucky, it drives a bigger industry and a lot of people make a great living from all this…


So it’s got to be mostly that I want to be alive. I want to go live and see what the day brings, be with these people that I’m with now. I know this sounds bad, but I feel like it’s all temporary. I’m 50 years old, and I don’t know, do I have another 10 years? Do I have 20 years? I don’t really know.


[laughing]


What is the thing? What is it that you are currently most passionate about in your life?


Maranda, these types of things always sound hokey to me. What I’m passionate about? I wouldn’t say passionate. I would say I’m obsessed. {laughing}


Passion, to me, is like having sex with my girlfriend. But it’s not the same as this driven obsession of creating. That’s a different thing. I guess for me, I always know that if we’re doing something, it takes me away from these things that I love, and so I’m trying to incorporate everything that I do all at the same time. Then I think about the people I love. I get to do things with the people that I love.


Then you get to go away somewhere, and you’re taken away from other people. So as we travel around as a group, I’m surrounded by nice, cool people. Not as a barrier. This is our deal. We’re going through the world, with all these people that I love, knowing that we’re meeting a bunch of interesting people, and taking them on board as well. And then we have our animals that we care about. We have our way that we get to make our art, and our music that we care about. It isn’t just that we make it. We care about the way that we make it. Does that really make sense? I’m not really sure what it could be, though.


Obviously, my passion is in making. Mostly it’s about music, but it encompasses everything. In every way of being. In every way that you live. So I try to say, I want to live my way. Maybe that’s what everyone wants to do, just live it your way, and hope that there’s time to enjoy each thing that happens… You have to live so much life, and quickly. I would say it’s like


having to eat 20 bowls of ice cream, all together. I love ice cream, but after doing it 20 times, you can’t enjoy it. You can still eat it, but it’s not the same desire. So, I don’t know. I would say that my passion is to communicate.


Maybe I should rephrase it… What’s the thing that sets you on fire?


The thing is to create. I mean, even as I’m speaking to you. I’m making this doodle on my kitchen table. I’ve got this thing where I’ve got to make shit. I don’t think that’s important. I don’t think that’s passion. I’m just wired that way, that I’ve got to f**king do stuff, and if I’m lucky, it makes it seem as though I have some control over my life… because I’m harsh.


[laughing]


But I don’t ever talk passion. I mean, what are some of the things that people say to that? That you don’t laugh at?


No, I’m not laughing. I’m inspired, and I will never use the word passionate again.


I think the whole point is that I want to get to the core. Where is it that you pull from? Is it light? Is it darkness? What’s your deepest truth? What deep well are you pulling from?


Well, to me, this is all about family. The people that are with me have been playing now for almost 30 years. Me and Michael for almost 30 years. Steven’s been almost 20 years. Some of these guys that have been working with me on the road have been with us 10, 12 years. I see little by little it’s about this bigger family. I’ve come from a big family, animals and weirdos, that are here all the time, full of love and surprises. Full of shit and marijuana and everything all at one time. So I think that’s part of what I’m given - the freedom, or given the time, or the money, or the energy to shape my life the way I want… It’s like a big family. Even now, we have this big gallery that we just opened. I was down there last night and 15 people [were] all doing some dumb art thing, smoking pot, getting drunk, listening to music, and I’m like “this was what it was like when I was six, a house full of a bunch of weirdos doing shit.” It’s probably based on that. Let’s just say that.


[laughing] I love it, I love it. It sounds like a circus.


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