p Eternal flame 41FALL/WINTER 2011


JOCK HILDEBRAND IN CONVERSATION WITH


LEE GASS


”I THINK IT’S UNFORTUNATE WHEN WE LOOK AT WORK THAT APPEARS TO BE HASTILY MADE; WORK THAT IS CONCEPTUAL WITHOUT BEING WELL MADE DOESN’T DO ANYTHING FOR ME.”


Jock Hildebrand: Lee, I was very interested in some of the things I’ve read about you. Please tell me more about carving ivory soap as a child and what that meant to you. Lee Gass: It meant a lot. My mother was a caffeine and nicotine addict. We sat on the back porch every morning when the weather was good and she’d drink a pot of coffee and smoke a bunch of cigarettes and we would carve ivory soap. When I was pretty little, about 5, we’d carve it onto a piece of newspaper and use the shavings for the washing machine. My mother could control the knife,


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