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up. Then I might go to another country and find stone and material that I want to use and take it over there.


JH: So you would present them with a small maquette or drawing? PF: It would be a 3-dimensional maquette. They take students through a 10 year apprenticeship program there, but after 10 years they often work in a factory for 70 dollars a month. We work with the students in their 7th, 8th and 9th years and ask them to stay on an extra year at the school to teach and be mentors. Then we set them


up so they can run their own businesses rather than work in a factory just grinding out material.


JH: So you’re going over there almost as a mentor, showing these folks what the possibilities are and opening up economic possibilities for them as well? PF: Yes, and we also try to link it back to the environment. A lot of my ideas are attached to how they can use public art to help the environment. I’ve had some of their smaller pieces brought over to the US and sold in the US. That money then


Bench with river backdrop


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