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that you can’t make a living doing it even if 100% of your life is devoted to it.

I don’t really see it changing any time soon so it’s not worth being upset over, but someone has got to figure out a way to make it more fair.

Has the process of writing your new album differed at all from the writing of the first? We’re writing it as a band in a room together as opposed to Joe and Matt writing and demoing all the parts and then finding people to play them. WhenWhy There Are Mountains was made, the band wasn’t fully formed, and now it is.

What bands are you currently into? Right now I’m listening to a lot of weird, kind of unrelated stuff. The B-52s, West Side Story, Teenage Fanclub, Brian Eno. A lot of early Beatles too lately. I’ve had “With The Beatles” in my car driving around town.

Any guilty pleasures, musically? Not really. I don’t feel guilty about any of the music I listen to. We

like pop music. Good pop is just as exciting, or usually more exciting, than most indie stuff that is popular.

I like Robyn’s record more than any of the big indie records to come out this year. Not guilty!

There have been a lot of comparisons of your music to bands like Pavement, Built to Spill and Modest mouse. Do you take these comparisons as compliments or as more of an easy way to label your sound? It’s both, really. It’s nice to be mentioned in the same thought as some of our favorite bands, but it is pretty easy to tell when someone is just dropping the same references others have previously.

With the critical success of your first album, are you feeling pressure from anywhere that your follow up has to live past the standards set or it is somehow a failure? Do you think that these types of expectations can directly effect what you end up producing?

We’re the harshest critics we know, especially when it comes to our own music, so there is that pressure, but it comes from within our little circle. You can drive yourself crazy turning over in your mind how someone is going to react to what you make.

What was the worst and best show you guys have played, and why? The worst has to be the first show I ever played with the band. It was a car company sponsored event and was super slick and corporate. There were these fast and furious custom cars on display and about 30 people in attendance. I don’t even remember if we played well because the setting was so absurd. The best show was probably our CMJ show at Santos later that same week.

Have you ever played drunk before? Matt and Brian like to have a beer or two before playing. Joe and I play sober, always. It has more to do with being the most comfortable on stage than anything else.

At what moment did you realize you were “making it” as a group? Lollapalooza? I think the Pitchfork review of our album was a big milestone. I wasn’t around for that, though. For me, it was probably opening for the Flaming Lips in London.

What’s next for you? We’re currently on a plane to London. Hopefully an hour of sleep before we land. Melatonin doesn’t do anything, apparently.


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