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Nick Vujicic cont. from front page to ask for another business deal. Let’s make some
As an aside, this interview is the lengthiest ever pub-
more money. He’ll be saying, “I want peace with God.
lished in the five-year history of Healthy Times
I want peace with my creator. I want peace with my
Newspaper. I couldn’t get myself to cut any of it, so we
family.” Those things come free.
made space.
I’m just talking about things in life that actually mat-
HT: In the midst of the global meltdown, what do
ter, like knowing that together, in time and with
you have to say to people who have experienced loss?
unity, we can overcome any circumstance. Not to say
that anybody understands my pain, but to say that I
Nick: It is such a trying time for everybody. The glob-
am not alone.
al economic crisis started coming to the surface when
we were in the middle of a world tour. We saw how
I have been to a point where I felt like I had nothing.
the effects were coming through, even to the poorer
At age eight, it’s not like I lost something, I just felt
countries like Liberia and Ghana and the not so devel-
like I had no light at the end of the tunnel. It was like fly a plane because he is too tall. He says, “Nick, it’s
oped parts of Egypt. It’s amazing to see how it ripples.
I was in a dark room and that was the scariest time of not true that everything is possible.” I said, ‘You are
my life. Here I was in this pain that no one could absolutely right, but don’t give up.’ I said, ‘You don’t
Basically, there are truths throughout life and princi-
understand. Nobody could help and no one could know what’s around the corner.’ I saw him at the
ples we can adopt that help us stay the course in times
explain. When I cried, all I could ask for was someone school a year later and he came up to me crying, cry-
like these. I’m not a person to say that I understand
to hold me while I cried, but that doesn’t change my ing, crying. I’d forgotten who he was. I speak 250
anybody else’s pain, but I will say this: We put so
circumstance. times a year. He reminded me of his story and he’s
many things up as security in our lives. We have secu-
crying, crying, crying and he says, “Nick, these are
rity in our relationships. We have security in money
I didn’t really feel like there was any hope for me at tears of joy because you told me, thank you for your
and possessions, materialistic things and pleasures as
all. I went to a mainstream school. The Australian advice.” He says, “You told me to keep on going and
well. However, one of the things I learned as a kid - if
school used me as an example to integrate the first don’t give up and see what’s around the corner. I
you put your happiness in temporary things, your
special needs child into a mainstream school in 1989- picked up a guitar months later and I am now in love
happiness will be temporary. It is very possible to be
1990. You know, the fact of that was that everywhere with my guitar. I’m now in a band and loving it. I’ve
complete on the outside, but broken on the inside.
I went I had a lot of unwanted attention. never been so happy.”
I can be angry for what I don’t have or I can be thank-
Kids these days, they’ll tease you if you’ve got a
So, just because we lose something or something does-
ful for what I do have. Right now everybody is focus-
crooked nose. Well, I was no exception. It just is one
n’t work out the way we hoped, it doesn’t mean that
ing on what they’ve lost and it’s so painful, you know,
of those fears that we all have to deal with. F-E-A-R. I
all is lost. FEAR: let me give you the acronym for fear.
losing something. But we still have some things to be
think that is the greatest disability of all. When you
False Evidence Appearing Real. That’s in the context
thankful for.
don’t know what you can achieve until you try it,
of irrational fear that can disable you more than hav-
what if you never get the courage to try? Courage is
ing no arms and no legs. Think about that for a
Gratitude is fundamental to keeping a positive atti-
so important. When you are in a business and it col-
moment. The cure for FEAR is FAITH, which stands for
tude. I’ve met so many kinds of people. I’ve met lapses, will you have the courage to keep going? The
Full Assurance In The Heart. That is talking about dis-
orphans. I’ve met sex slaves, people dying in hospitals courage to try again, or will you give up?
covering the truth of the value of your purpose and
- and they are still grateful for things in their lives.
your destiny. I’m not less valuable if I’ve just lost a
I’ve thought to myself if there are people out there Maybe something is around the corner. I tell many
million dollars. I’m not a failure if I just failed at a
with less and they are grateful, then why is that? people you don’t know what’s around the corner.
project. Every failure is a step closer to success if you
There is hope around the corner until you give up.
refuse to give up.
I believe everybody can have a real perspective. One of They can do anything they put their mind to. This
the things I’ve realized in my life is that being in a bro- kid came up to me, he’s six foot seven and he said,
HT: I’ve been considering your point on gratitude.
ken home, for example, is worse than having no arms “Nick, I was going to tell you something.” I said,
What an extreme test of the principle. You are talk-
and no legs. Perspective is such a key. What can heal ‘What?’ He said, “I don’t think that everything is pos-
ing to people who have lost everything. Many people
a broken heart? Drugs, sex and alcohol don’t fill the sible. I’ve got a disease in my body that makes me
in western society have lost their home; they’ve lost
heart like love, joy or peace. And money can’t buy grow too tall.” He says that in three years he will be
their retirement or their job. Or, you talk to people
those things. A billionaire on his deathbed isn’t going more than seven foot and that he will never be able to
who’ve lost their inno-
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